Anyone have an alternate Gnome?

Crothian, no. Gnomes should *not* get a wis penalty. Unless you want them to be silly foolish dragonlance tinker gnomes, but they are universally found as stupid and annoying.

I don't see gnomes as unwise. They are, to the contrary, depicted as very clever and wise in their way of prefering to avoid violence and confuse opponents rather than fight them.

I have a variant gnome subrace, though, the night gnomes. They are a bit distant from the illusionist archetype; as they are rather diviner than illusionist, and rather cleric than wizard.

Details about them can be found here, but scroll down a little (or better yet, use the Find function of your browser to search for "night gnomes").

To sum up, they are secretive people that hoard lore and secrets as dragons hoard treasure; and that live this way on the behalf of a strange goddess. They live only on nights, as they pay their keen sight with delicate eyes. They are pale, small, have gray or silvery hair, and dress usually in white; making them looks like little ghosts when seen from a distance. They are, however, rarely seen, as they do use all they know of ion to stay hidden. The only way for an interloper to find a night gnome city, they say, is to stumble on an abandonned and ruined city or to be the guest of a gnome.
 

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Arcane Gnome stats

Can someone post the relevant Aracane Gnome info ... I have that issue of Dragon, but someone in my group borrowed it and no one is admiting to having it (the ol' "I don't have it, must him who borrowed it"), so I am unable to look it up. It sounds close enough to what I want. Thanks.
 


Wolf72 said:
Arcain GaNomez:

+int/-wis, +con/-str

Use Magical thingee to blow up own party ... always a class skill

no speaking with lesser creatures!

those are the changes hope they make sense (if not I'll clean it up for ya)

from Wyvern 291 1/2

This is for Kramis ... okay lemme translate

the +/- thing should be 2's

Use Magical Device is always a class skill (normally exclusive to rogue/bard)

they cannot speak with animals as Rock gnomes can
 


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