Anyone seen Kill Bill yet? [merged]

[Nightfall]

What's worse is I haven't read Hamlet in at least three years...and I understand every word of this.

Ahh, the life of a Geek is filled with strange joy.

Yeah well the point is, its THESE kinds of postings I enjoy in En World more than anywhere else.

 

[jdavis]

What's worse is I haven't read Hamlet in at least three years...and I understand every word of this.

Ahh, the life of a Geek is filled with strange joy.

I saw Hamlet when Mystery Science Theater made fun of it but that's about it, I read Julius Caesar in High School instead (and was glad I did). They used to make us do Shakespeare in acting class and I hated it but if I was to call him overated then this thread may really become a mess so I didn't say that, (unless somebody starts up a Shakespeare thread).

 

[jdavis]

Jdavis,

Okay fair enough. I guess though I saw it in a different light than you. Even so, I do like your insights on the movie. Some really good stuff there.

I hate to go all anime fan boy on anything (mainly because I am not one). I was just pointing out the misconception that all anime is the same (or good or bad or dirty or childish or pokemon or Dragon Ball Z or the same in any way; anime is a huge multi-genre industry in Japan, shows differ from each other in drastic ways depending on who made them and what they are about.)

The movie was most definatly influenced by some anime shows (Tarantino said he watched old movies and anime when he got stuck while writing the script), but it's just not a anime movie in any way shape or form, it's exactly what Tarantino said it was a homage to B action movies from the 70's. See here I go again; if anybody has any interest in seeing just how much anime is out there check out http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/index.php , their encyclopedia section is huge.

 

[Nightfall]

Understood JD.

 

[Welverin]

Well the really early show was only $3.75 but who goes to the movies at 2 in the afternoon?
http://www.cinemark.com/THEATER_SHOWTIMES.ASP?THEATER_ID=327

Just keep rubbing it in why don't you. What I have to put up with

I finally saw it on Saturday and found the 'violence' to be ridiculously over the top and rather funny at the time. What did make me cringe was seeing N.D. Kalu set on Rich Seubert’s leg on Sunday, that I could stand watching more then once (and I didn’t).

 

[Pielorinho]

He is a middle-aged man who simultaneously acts as the oldest philosopher and a young lover (Pielorinho isn't the only person to miss that he's far from a teenager).

Seriously? I always thought he was supposed to be a teenager. How do we know he's middle-aged?

Daniel
lovin' the detour from Tarantino to Shakespeare

 

[barsoomcore]

Facetiousness aside, I am with you on the fact that there's a whole lot of basis for different interpretations in the play.

And saying-outrageous-things-just-to-stir-up-debate aside, I am with you on the infinite incarnations that Hamlet provides.

Harold Bloom has a great book on Shakespeare wherein he makes the comment that while everyone comes to Hamlet and tries to create a definitive version (okay, maybe not EVERYONE. Not sure I have, for example), they always fail. Hamlet's bigger than any of us. He is MORE than any of us, because he includes all of us.

He is dilatory according to himself, but not according to anyone else, so we never know for sure if he is or isn't.

One of my favourite hobbies is doubting Shakespeare characters. They're a deceitful bunch, and you can have endless fun saying "Yeah, well we know that Macbeth SAYS he murdered Duncan, but how do we KNOW it's true? Maybe somebody beat him to it?"

And as one last note, Hamlet himself offers up the potential that the ghost he has seen may not be what it claimed to be.

The spirit that I have seen
May be a devil; and the devil hath power
T' assume a pleasing shape; yea, and perhaps
Out of my weakness and my melancholy,
As he is very potent with such spirits,
Abuses me to damn me.

"Hm, might be the devil. Oh well, guess I'll kill him anyway."

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

"Hm, might be the devil. Oh well, guess I'll kill him anyway."

...I have the urge to take this line to my Literature Teacher.

 

[Nightfall]

I have with mine when I took my Shakespearan class. Anyway while I adore Halmet on an exercise level, I find Julius Caeser and/or Henry the V a much better character study.

 

[Tsyr]

Ok, just got back from seeing it.

To be honest?

Underawed. Very. Wasn't a bad movie, but wasn't what it could have been. Though the scene in Okinawa was great, from the comedy to the seriousness.

Though a comment...

Am I the only one who watches movies brought to America by "Tokyo Shock" and similar distributors? Movies like Fudoh: The New Generation, Dead or Alive, and similar movies? To be honest, Kill Bill reminded me more of Fudoh: The New Generation than any other movie I can name.