Are 4E rogues marginalised by magic?

Do you think magic marginalises the 4E rogue class?

  • Strongly agree that magic marginalises the rogue.

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Somewhat agree that magic marginalises the rogue.

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Haven't seen it either way.

    Votes: 14 22.2%
  • Somewhat disagree that magic marginalises the rogue.

    Votes: 11 17.5%
  • Strongly disagree that magic marginalises the rogue.

    Votes: 34 54.0%

  • Poll closed .

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Since the focus of a 4E rogue is to be an effective melee striker, the wizard in no way steps on the rogue's toes. In earlier editions the rogue role was as a scout, lockpicker, second story man, ect. and magic could accomplish a lot of that. The "specialist" nature of the rogue has changed and now those types of skills can be spread throughout the party. A wizard opening locks, levitating, and other such things no longer replaces a rogue because those things are not the primary rogue functions.
 

I voted No. Rogues are not marginalized in 4E. IMO with the elimination (for the most part) of non-combat magic from the tactical equation, any real argument otherwise went out the window.

Of course I never found that 3E rogue's were marginalized, unless the wizard, rogue and GM made that happen. But that's a discussion for the other thread.
 

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