Lichtenhart
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Nope, that is not my idea of freedom. But 'I can judge people poorly, and act along with this judgement, because IMO they acted like complete jerks and morons' is not usually a good prelude.
Are gamers really that pathetic?
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Nisarg said:
There are other ways to be pathetic. One can speak negatively about every product on the market and still buy them. One can focus on words and their meaning and ignore the big picture of a setting. One can try to troll an entire forum into speaking badly about a large publishing company.
But back on topic. In my gaming experience I have run into a large number of games that meet the pathetic stereotype. And I think that Gaming being an indoor activity that caters to people who have large fantasy lives does mean that we have more than our fair share. Can we be stereotyped to pathetic? Sure, much better when we aren’t and surprise people.
BradfordFerguson
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I don't think that most gamers are like that, I doubt that it comes close to a third of gamers. Some gamers I know don't like huge crowds, some people I know don't like huge crowds. Also, convention situations can be wierd, leading to nervousness. Young women are hired for their good looks to help a booth stand out against the rest, combine that with the often cramped nature of the floor where people may feel claustrophobic.
Anyhow, most gamers I know are well-adjusted and handle themselves very well in social situations. ...and Biggus Geekus cracks me up
I think it's silly that some booth babes who are concerned about their looks and how people perceive them would judge a group of people by a couple of people who weren't comfortable. Oh well, it happens everyday.
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Bradford Ferguson
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Anyhow, most gamers I know are well-adjusted and handle themselves very well in social situations. ...and Biggus Geekus cracks me up
I think it's silly that some booth babes who are concerned about their looks and how people perceive them would judge a group of people by a couple of people who weren't comfortable. Oh well, it happens everyday.
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Hida Bukkorosu
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some of you people (you know who you are) sicken me. i am a social misfit. i'm 27, never had anything remotely resembling a relationship or date in my life, and yes, i still live off my parents. i'm trying to be independent, but i'm pretty sure that as soon as i graduate i will fail spectacularly. why? why would someone hire me when they could hire someone who's equally smart and a non-misfit. or just outsource the job to india or somewhere.
and you people, you want to rob those like me of the one thing that makes our lives something approaching tolerable for a few brief hours. because we "bring down the public perception of the hobby".
i suppose from a darwinian point of view, this may be a good thing. i mean, i'm already not reproducing, but i suppose it's best for the species if people like me aren't consuming resources, and giving us less things to numb the pain of life might be good if more of us kill ourselves. i'm gonna kill myself when i turn 30 (or sooner, if my means of support dries up).
as far as hygeine, why should i bathe? i've been bathing frequently for the last couple weeks and it hasn't made me any more attractive to girls, so why should i bother? why should i bother doing anything?
why live?
and you people, you want to rob those like me of the one thing that makes our lives something approaching tolerable for a few brief hours. because we "bring down the public perception of the hobby".
i suppose from a darwinian point of view, this may be a good thing. i mean, i'm already not reproducing, but i suppose it's best for the species if people like me aren't consuming resources, and giving us less things to numb the pain of life might be good if more of us kill ourselves. i'm gonna kill myself when i turn 30 (or sooner, if my means of support dries up).
as far as hygeine, why should i bathe? i've been bathing frequently for the last couple weeks and it hasn't made me any more attractive to girls, so why should i bother? why should i bother doing anything?
why live?
Desdichado
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I can agree with that. In fact, I have about three times already in this thread.BradfordFerguson said:Anyhow, most gamers I know are well-adjusted and handle themselves very well in social situations. ...and Biggus Geekus cracks me up
For that matter, I think my biggest takeaway from this entire thread is that Incenjucar is regularly hit on my hot chicks that get mad at his pants for not coming off fast enough.
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Desdichado
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that.Lichtenhart said:
Hida Bukkorosu said:
Wow, so now I'm supposed to feel sorry for you right? And feel bad for my position, because it makes you feel bad?
Well, I don't. You make yourself feel bad. Its not your "social misfit" status that is stopping you from succeeding in life, its YOU. Its your attitude, your feeling that you're a loser even before you start. Being a social misfit is undoubtedly a product of that.
So shape up, take some responsibility for yourself and your life, or all I have to say to you is "yay darwin".
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Lichtenhart
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Well, this is dangerously close to a self-fulfilling prophecy. What makes you so sure of that? To aswer to your question, because you may be in the right place at the right time, while the hypotetical more social person isn't. And I don't know what you're studying but not all jobs can be lightheartedly outsourced to India. And some employers out there have a conscience too. (At least I hope soHida Bukkorosu said:
) Nope. From a darwinian point of view, variety is good. It's best for the species if most fit (whatever 'fit' to survival is in our world) reproduce more, but without throwing out genes that could become useful should the world change.
Well, even the most social person can be out on the market for much more than two weeks. I'd say bathing, dressing well and so on are more about being ready when the chance appears than a sure gain.
I could say a lot of hypocrite things about this. I won't. I have no good answers for you. I have no good answers for myself either, for that kind of question. But I would rather keep trying. There are a lot of things to be missed in this world, only we don't usually notice them. I didn't either, but my father began to suffer from depression, and I have to constantly remind him of all the good things in life. It's an exercise that did a lot of good to me too.
And Bukkorosu, a true Crab never gives up.
jester47
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I am not saying people can't wear whatever they want. Legalities are out of the scope of what I am talking about. I am simply saying that they need to be prepared to accept the consequnces of dressing a certain way at a certain time and place.
How about this. You can wear you KKK robes wherever you want, but don't come crying to me when you get you ass beat because you wore them in Harlem. Don't wear your yamika to a neo-nazi rally. Its the same social construct everywhere, just not as extreme. How you dress, smell and behave has consequnces wheather you are prepared to accept them or not. Wearing a business suit to play basketball is going to turn some heads.
Freedom to do what you want does not mean freedom from the consequences of your actions. This is what CPM/costume man miss. They are selfish enough to put thier freedoms above everyone elses, and when they get called on it, their first defence is they have the right to do so.
Sure they have the legal right to wear thier costume or smell bad or be obnoxious. But its still inappropriate. And there are still consequences. And I still have the legal right to let them know that I think that, and I have the legal right to not be associated with them, and I have the legal right (If I am the owner of a store or in a similar position) to ask them to leave, and I have the legal right to make fun of them all I want. And I am very glad someone put their life on the line to give me these rights. It gives me the right to kick ass when these cat piss smelling, costume wearing, morons try to make thier rights more important than mine.
Thats a big broblem with a lot of people who have grown up in the US. They think freedom is about not having consequences for their actions. And I think that is why Nisarg does not see CPM where he is and why CPM is rare in Europe. RPGs are a haven for people who want to be free of these consequnces, because in an RPG they can get away with the stuff that they clearly know would have consequnces in real life.
Aaron.
How about this. You can wear you KKK robes wherever you want, but don't come crying to me when you get you ass beat because you wore them in Harlem. Don't wear your yamika to a neo-nazi rally. Its the same social construct everywhere, just not as extreme. How you dress, smell and behave has consequnces wheather you are prepared to accept them or not. Wearing a business suit to play basketball is going to turn some heads.
Freedom to do what you want does not mean freedom from the consequences of your actions. This is what CPM/costume man miss. They are selfish enough to put thier freedoms above everyone elses, and when they get called on it, their first defence is they have the right to do so.
Sure they have the legal right to wear thier costume or smell bad or be obnoxious. But its still inappropriate. And there are still consequences. And I still have the legal right to let them know that I think that, and I have the legal right to not be associated with them, and I have the legal right (If I am the owner of a store or in a similar position) to ask them to leave, and I have the legal right to make fun of them all I want. And I am very glad someone put their life on the line to give me these rights. It gives me the right to kick ass when these cat piss smelling, costume wearing, morons try to make thier rights more important than mine.
Thats a big broblem with a lot of people who have grown up in the US. They think freedom is about not having consequences for their actions. And I think that is why Nisarg does not see CPM where he is and why CPM is rare in Europe. RPGs are a haven for people who want to be free of these consequnces, because in an RPG they can get away with the stuff that they clearly know would have consequnces in real life.
Aaron.
Lichtenhart
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This, Joshua, is exactly what I mean. I doesn't even need my comment. Read it again.Joshua Dyal said:
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