Apparently Aquaman 2 pre-sales are dire after 1 day so to early?
Shazam 2 levels low.
Shazam 2 levels low.
But that is the question.
I can make a Night Man movie about a rich guy who dresses up in a 'night' costume to fight crime as a detective ninja demigod. I can have a villain with a dumb plan and a damsel in a dress. And have Night Man do beyond dumb ninja moves where he jumps in the air and "flying kicks" like 20 minions.
But that would not be a "super hero" movie....as I just made up Night Man. And Night Man is not a "super hero".
Darkman!You just described Darkman - Raimi’s homage to the Shadow and definitely a non-comic superhero
But, wait......non-comic super hero? What is a super hero then? Are we just doing the vague "anything beyond a normal hero?"
Has at least two of:But, wait......non-comic super hero? What is a super hero then? Are we just doing the vague "anything beyond a normal hero?"
The Marvels is not a bad movie. It's not a good movie, but it's no worse than about 9 other MCU movies that made pots of money.The point I'm getting around too, is it is more just bad movies.....not a bad type of movie.
Let me think about this, comics included.
Captain Marvel has always just been there in the comics. She didn't really get people feeling one way or the other, until the comics made her actively fascist when they had their Civil War plotline. Being the first female-led Marvel movie, made certain sections of the Internet get really insecure, and that's the Brie Larson hate train that Youtube still tries to link people to. The movie is fine, but they made her so powerful that they have to keep her off the stage, and it didn't exactly make her lovable (and her very few Endgame scenes were shot before Captain Marvel, so she comes off even worse in them).
Ms Marvel is far and away the biggest success from when the comics tried to introduce many new teen characters at once (like three supergenius teen girls within one week, uhh). Their biggest fault was bogging her down with the 'let's replace mutants with inhumans' angle. It was amazing to see the show manage to capture the spirit of her books while doing its own thing... for two episodes, after which it forgot to be about her and just became an incoherent mess about nonsensical baddie bad guys.
Monica Rambeau has never been a big name in comics, with her biggest contribution being wearing the Captain Marvel mantle during the original Secret Wars. I always liked her, so imagine my vibes when MCU forcefully introduces her character in Wandavision with 'Wanda randomly gives her the powers she's supposed to have, then she'll say 'they'll never know what you gave up' when talking to the supervillain that was keeping a whole town captive and just had to stop doing it'. How is anyone supposed to like her after that?
So, yeah, while much of the active dislike of them is just the Internet automatically really hating having women in their movies, it's also not the strongest basis for a team-up, when the biggest character draw in it relies on people having watched a (very ethnic) teen show on Disney+...
I think Madame Web is the most obscure thing Sony could dig out of their Spider-Man And Related People folder. The backlash would be the same by itself - it's kind of a nonsense premise, and Sony's standards are firmly set somewhere around Morbius level.
You want male audiences in greater numbers, they need to feel like you respect and value them, then they will have no problem coming to movies like hypothetical Black Cat, Spiderwoman, Storm, Gunnverse Wonderwoman, Supergirl, Powergirl, etc..., because they won't feel like they are being erased or humiliated or sidelined.
Not to put too fine a point on this, but erased? Humiliated? Sidelined? What???
Look, the basic default in the superhero movie is to appeal to the male audience. Period.
So you get a ton of superhero movies. And if they succeed, great. And if they don't, then it's for all the regular reasons.
But if, god forbid, you have a superhero movie that is led by a woman, then every single time, it is a referendum on whether or not you can even have ... um .... those types of movies. And every success (and there are plenty of successes!) is completely discounted (see, e.g., your comments about Brie Larson, who starred in a movie that made over a billion dollars), and every failure is because it had the temerity to have a female lead, which is somehow threatening to men? That casting a woman as the lead might erase, humiliate, or sideline men?
Look, not to call you out specifically, but we really need to get beyond this point. It's 2023- we should be able to have action movies with female lead without worrying about men feeling marginalized. I mean, how can that even be a thing? It's not like there aren't enough male superheroes out there, or there's a dearth of roles for them in action movies .... right?