Are women just bored of the rings?

[barsoomcore]

I posted all of the following a page back or so any have yet to see any response. I thought it was fairly well-written.

You would.

Sure, I got your response right here.

you are suggesting that stereotypes are entirely baseless, and I'm saying that they are the way in which we are able to discuss large groups and predict behaviour. It succeeds more often than it fails.

Anyone here remember Orion Films? Anyone familiar with the financial history of MGM Studios? Cannon Films?

"More often than it fails"? Yeah, maybe I'd go for that. "Good enough to run a railroad"? No, I don't think so.

The entertainment industry is notoriously bad at predicting audience reaction. Few other industries are as consistently volatile. If predicting group behaviour was particularly successful, every film would be a hit. The fact is that nobody has come up with a system that predicts market success with any accuracy at all. The industry is forever getting blindsided by hits that come out of nowhere, and forever getting burned by trying to repeat previous successes. Behaviour prediction is overrated -- mainly by the very marketing flacks who depend on its putated accuracy for their livelihoods.

You're not a marketing flack, are you?

Your theory also fails to take into account that if you open your eyes and look around at a Pro wrestling event you are seeing mostly men...evidence I find compelling (if anecdotal)

But not evidence of a, let us say, physically-based tendency. It may be evidence that men are socially directed towards such events and women are socially directed away. Certainly history gives us many examples of women who were raised "as men" and who went on to value and enjoy the sorts of things associated with men -- which offers vague, "not-really" evidence that it's all social.

Which I understand is rather tangential to your point. Whether it's social or genetic, if it exists it ought to be addressed.

And I don't argue that it exists. I'm just ruminating.

But just to offer my own anecdotal counter, last night we watched Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (which surely has to rank as about as "male-directed" as any film can get, consisting largely of scantily-clad women shaking their enormous ta-tas and driving fast cars recklessly -- simultaneously, if at all possible) and my wife not only loved it, she has announced that we must own a copy.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

But just to offer my own anecdotal counter, last night we watched Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (which surely has to rank as about as "male-directed" as any film can get, consisting largely of scantily-clad women shaking their enormous ta-tas and driving fast cars recklessly -- simultaneously, if at all possible) and my wife not only loved it, she has announced that we must own a copy.

That's one hell of a woman you've got there!

 

[barsoomcore]

Truly, I am blessed.

 

[Richards]

Originally posted by Banshee16:

Given that my degree is in Psychology, I do believe I have some grounding in the topic.

Originally posted by Zander:

Given that I have two degrees in Psychology, I do believe I have more grounding in the topic.

Okay, we're currently at two Psychology degrees...do I hear three? Looking for three Psychology degrees...anyone?

Johnathan

 

[Teflon Billy]

You're not a marketing flack, are you?

Nope.

[Snipped a bunch of psychobabble]...Which I understand is rather tangential to your point. Whether it's social or genetic, if it exists it ought to be addressed.

And I don't argue that it exists. I'm just ruminating.

Then we agree. All I've said the entire time is that these stereotypes exist in acutality if you take groups larger than "women I know"

Whether social or genetic is not something I've commented on (or care about).

But just to offer my own anecdotal counter...[snipped Barsoomecore's account of his hot, awesome wife]

I've said time and again here that anecdotal "But, girls I know..." examples don't change anything about the gender-wide recognizable patterns I was talking about.

You haven't poste a counter, exactly. You've posted another example that doesn't affect what I'm talking about.

PS. Did you get my email?

 

[Teflon Billy]

Originally posted by Banshee16:Originally posted by Zander:Okay, we're currently at two Psychology degrees...do I hear three? Looking for three Psychology degrees...anyone?

heh, I got nothing

 

[Vocenoctum]

Originally posted by Banshee16:Originally posted by Zander:Okay, we're currently at two Psychology degrees...do I hear three? Looking for three Psychology degrees...anyone?

Johnathan

No, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn...

 

[Vocenoctum]

He didn't get the chance, since Eowyn almost immediately whacked him through the "head". But had this not happened, remember the fords at Rivendell. All of the nazgul were completely physically destroyed, and yet reformed within days, whole and unharmed. I don't think the Witch-King would have been more than inconvenienced by Merry's stroke had Eowyn not been present.

But, why did her stroke do something different that any other stroke from any other blade through the Ages?
Mentioned elsewhere, but I kind of always figured the witch King would have reformed eventually, had the One Ring not been destroyed.

Other than, for example, single handedly killing the fell beast the Witch-King rode on, and having the force of will to stand and fight him at all.

She gets full XP for the fell beast, sure. She didn't really do much against the Witch King though. She stabbed and collapsed. Merry should still get the majority of the XP since it was his slice that did it.

Man can mean either. In many cases it is used to distinguish between elf, dwarf, orc, and human, but in the context of the prophecy (given by Glorfindel, an elf) it seems clear that he doesn't mean "human", since he (an elf) declines to chase the Witch-King on the basis that no man can kill him.

Well, he saw that his death was "far off", but he still could have done many things to the Witch King. The fact that he saw that his end wasn't immediate doesn't mean he couldn't have done something to him.

 

[Merlion]

You've posted another example that doesn't affect what I'm talking about

What would be a response that would affect what your talking about just out of curiosity?

 

[barsoomcore]

You haven't poste a counter, exactly. You've posted another example that doesn't affect what I'm talking about.

Okay, so I'm bragging about how cool my wife is. Sue me.

PS. Did you get my email?

Nope. I'll send you one -- then you can just hit the "Reply" button. Easier for you marketing flacks.