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DaveMage said:
The thing about Eli that annoys me is his toughness (or lack thereof). He seems to bail out most of the time whenever the rush is coming rather than deliver the pass and take the hit. Now granted, I understand not wanting to get smashed by a defensive player when throwing a pass, but he's been paid quite a bit of money to do exactly that....
He does do that sometimes, but lots of QBs do. And I have seen him take some nasty hits (just like other QBs) after delivering a pass, too. I have a problem with his accuracy more than anything. He misses too many open reads, overthrows because he's throwing off his back foot (even without a blitzer in his face) and doesn't make throws easy for his receivers. That said, his best pass is the 20+, which is really odd.

He's a puzzling player as he has shown moments of brilliance in leading his team from behind in the 4th quarter. And then he goes out there and throws interceptions that kill games and misses wide open guys. I think Coughlin opened up the offense a bit too early. He should have stuck with the running game more, even when down in some of the games and relied more on play action and screens. Don't put the game in Eli's hands unless you have to. Give it to Tiki & Jacobs and feed the TEs on short routes. Use more 3-step drops.

It doesn't help that his defense regularly gives up late leads, just like in the last game against the Eagles. He drove them down the field for a score late and the defense gave it right back in the blink of an eye.

DaveMage said:
If he can change that, then I think he can be a decent QB in the NFL. I don't see him ever being a superstar, though.
That I mostly agree with. He's never going to be his brother and it's not even fair to assume that as Peyton will go down as one of the all time greats. I do think he will be a very good QB and that he does have a high ceiling. He should bulk up in the off-season and come back with a "this is my team" attitude and work on his short passing game.

I also think the bar was set artificially high after the first Eagles game when he lead them from behind for a wacky win. That plus Toomer getting hurt and loss of his starting left tackle (Petitgout) has helped him much. Take away any QB's starting LT and he's usually going to struggle.
 

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I have to admit that while it was a bit surprising that the Colts stopped LJ cold, I'm not shocked. Herm Edwards did nothing to try and change things up against the Colts. It was run on 1st and 2nd down then throw on 3rd. They did nothing for 7 straight drives. Terrible game plan.
 

Terrible game plan.

I'll agree with that 100%!

You know you can run- you have LJ, the #2 runner in the league this year, and you're pitting him against a run D ranked in the 30's. They know you can run- they will be stacking that line in an effort to stuff LJ.

Sounds like its time to do play-action & other passes until they vacate the box, leaving room for LJ to crush their souls.

And having your best pass reciever blocking for 65% of the game? :confused:
 

KC heard they could run on the Colts all week and they beleived it. It reminds me of one of one of those what is the hardest thing in sports answers: getting into the post season and having to go in at halftime and come up with a completely new strategy because the one that got you there doesn't work anymore.
 

The Colts have shown (again) that they are more than just Peyton Manning.

In other news, this year Seattle got the big breaks that they thought they deserved in last year's Super Bowl. What an exciting ending!
 


Wow, just...wow. I can't believe Seattle managed to win that game! Of course they suffered some more injuries, but what else is new. Now I'm gonna root for Philly to beat the Giants tomorrow.
 

Dannyalcatraz said:
I agree there- his bro took some time to develop.
Not really. Peyton year 1 record: 3-13. Year 2: 13-3, and he's been off to the races ever since. :D

In my mind, the big difference is that Peyton came into a team that was total crap before him, so he could easily take it over. Eli, on the other hand, is a bit shy, AND there are a bunch of big shots already there.
 

QB development isn't all about W-L. Some of Peyton's wins are undoubtedly going to be because of someone else's performance- say, Marvin Harrison, Marshall Faulk or Edgerrin James. Some are going to be because the other team was simply no good.

Consider his career stats: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12531

From 1998-2002, he had only one season where he threw 2x more TDs than INTs. Since 2003, he's had only two seasons where he threw fewer than 3x more TDs than INTs- and those seasons he was close (within a TD or 2).

In 2004, his average passer rating exceeded 100 for the first time- having just missed it in 2003- and it hasn't dropped below that mark.
 

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