TwilightWhisper
First Post
At what level would an artificer be able to create Warforged, given he had the resources and facilities?
Artificers!
- Thread starter TwilightWhisper
- Start date
BrooklynKnight
First Post
The rules for Creating warforged have not been listed or given to us. I doubt they will be.
You can be pretty sure however, that the creation of warforged requires an Elderitch Machine (The Creation Forge) which is built using Xen'drik artifacts, and a Dragonmarked to operate it.
As for working on the actual inert body parts, thats not listed either, though one can bet that the Craft DC's are in the high 20's to mid 30's.
Keith can say more.
By the way Twilight, This friday i'm doing a live chat with the Eberron Developers (see my sig for info.)
You're more then welcome to join the chat and ask your questions then, to get a live answer straight from wotc's devs.
You can be pretty sure however, that the creation of warforged requires an Elderitch Machine (The Creation Forge) which is built using Xen'drik artifacts, and a Dragonmarked to operate it.
As for working on the actual inert body parts, thats not listed either, though one can bet that the Craft DC's are in the high 20's to mid 30's.
Keith can say more.
By the way Twilight, This friday i'm doing a live chat with the Eberron Developers (see my sig for info.)
You're more then welcome to join the chat and ask your questions then, to get a live answer straight from wotc's devs.
TwilightWhisper
First Post
BrooklynKnight said:
Thanx for the invite BK! That rocks! I'm not sure I'll be able to make that though, but I'll try.
RithTheAwakener
First Post
Actually, i just made a character revolved around this...
Im new to Eberron, didnt know much of the history before i started playing, made a Warforged fighter/artisan to imbue myself, and my goal is to find out how to make warforged (because im told it was outlawed after the big war) and the only people know how are Lord of Blades and some top people in the artisan house (K something?)
But i digress. Id say at least 12th level, given u actually figured out HOW to make them, schemas and whatnot
Im new to Eberron, didnt know much of the history before i started playing, made a Warforged fighter/artisan to imbue myself, and my goal is to find out how to make warforged (because im told it was outlawed after the big war) and the only people know how are Lord of Blades and some top people in the artisan house (K something?)
But i digress. Id say at least 12th level, given u actually figured out HOW to make them, schemas and whatnot
BrooklynKnight
First Post
Cannith
Hellcow
Adventurer
Creating warforged requires the use of a creation forge, an eldritch machine/dragonshard focus use by House Cannith. All but two of the creation forges have been destroyed. In theory, using the forge would require the mark of Making, though the Lord of Blades appears to have bypassed that. As an eldritch machine, a creation forge blurs the lines of character level; it would be more about having the necessary knowledge, training, schemas, and so on. Merrix d'Cannith is building warforged, and he's a 9th-level artificer -- but he's got access to a third of the resources of House Cannith.TwilightWhisper said:
In any case, without access to a creation forge, it doesn't matter what level you are, you can't build true (ensouled) warforged.
OK, you're one of the guys who wrote the thing, but from reading things I wouldn't be so sure the Mark of Making is involved. The creation forges originally came from Xen'drik, or at least were based on designs from there. Dragonmarks never showed up over there, they're all based on Khorvaire, plus that the civilizations on Xen'drik were destroyed before dragonmarks showed up.Hellcow said:
Also, while Merrix d'Cannith has access to a third of the resources of House Cannith, I doubt he can use more than a very small portion of those resources to make warforged, given the need for secrecy.
Hellcow
Adventurer
Maybe yes, maybe no. You are exactly correct in your assumptions. However, the creation forges are not simply duplicates of Xen'drik artifacts; they are *inspired* by Xen'drik artifacts. Thus, Cannith has adapted the principles and combined them with their own unique gifts. If you're non-Cannith artificer went to Xen'drik or somehow recovered the schema used to create the creation forges, perhaps you could create one that didn't use the mark of Making.Staffan said:
True. But my point is not that he can divert vast sums of gold or material as much as he can obtain small, rare components. Remember that Cannith is *always* engaging in mystical innovation. If Merrix says "I need two ounces of silver dragon's blood" -- the people in his house probably won't say "Really? What for?" -- they are more likely to assume that he's working on a new product. This sort of small, exotic component is the sort of thing that would be an issue; since Merrix is only producing warforged occasionally, he doesn't need tons of metal or the like. And if someone does later say "Merrix, what happened with the dragon's blood?" he can always say "The experiment was a failure." One more failed UMD roll...Staffan said:
It's worth noting that the creation of the warforged was also an economy of scale; the creation forges and the ability to cheaply reproduce an existing design would be the only thing that would make the warforged economically feasible. Again, even if you somehow found a broken creation forge, figured out how to repair it, and to use it -- you'd be dealing with a significant inital investment to begin creation.
The difficulty of creating new warforged is part of the setting, and something the warforged themselves have to deal with as a newborn race; it's not supposed to be something any artificer can accomplish. And since it is a violation of the Treaty of Thronehold, if you do find out how to do it, you've got new things to worry about (not to mention Cannith and the Lord of Blades).
Similar Threads
