Go with the dash feat as a base, and then maybe from then on perhaps a trade can be arranged. Perhaps your hitdice is decreased for one level and you get a speed increase or something. This is one of those things I'm sure you could talk to your dm about and work out some kind of compromise..
Artificially increasing base speed
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paradox42 said:Yes, I know. It really is astounding how many people I outdistance without effort- whenever I go out with friends I either find myself far ahead of them after a minute or two of walking, or forcing myself constantly to slow down to their pace so they can keep up. One of those friends is 6'5", and he has to work to keep up with me (if he feels like it- he rarely does). Crowds are always annoying to me, not because I mind the press of people, but because there's always somebody in front of me who's oblivious to those behind and thus slows me down by blocking my path. I can't stand that- and I've gotten very adept at slipping through tight spaces that exist for only a second or two in a crowd, believe me!
Like I said, the speed may be 45, but it's definitely quite a bit higher than 30 feet/round (and I don't think 40 is high enough to cover it). I'm definitely an oddball this way, and very few people can match my pace without jogging slightly- but it's just the way I naturally walk and move.
So anyway, in game terms, I'd say a feat should cover it. Yeah.
I have the same problem. I work for a overnight package delivery service and have learned to walk fast. And with my wife or with friends I too have found myself out distancing them. I have to amit I'm not the most physical fit guy around but just 'm a fast walker. And I also feel your pain in a crowd.
Bront
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Same here too, but you'd be supprised it's not as fast as you think.Airboy said:I have the same problem. I work for a overnight package delivery service and have learned to walk fast. And with my wife or with friends I too have found myself out distancing them. I have to amit I'm not the most physical fit guy around but just 'm a fast walker. And I also feel your pain in a crowd.
In the 30' move to 35' move, that's 5 feet of extra distance every 6 seconds. So, that's 50' after a minute. An extra 50' a minute means you can greatly outdistance others with little effort, as that's quite a distance.
Well, I was walking fast before I got my current job, but it's funny you mention delivery: I'm currently working for UPS.Airboy said:I have the same problem. I work for a overnight package delivery service and have learned to walk fast. And with my wife or with friends I too have found myself out distancing them. I have to amit I'm not the most physical fit guy around but just 'm a fast walker. And I also feel your pain in a crowd.
Admittedly I work in a package hub and don't actually deliver anything directly- but it's technically working for a package delivery service...And PC was right about Speed of Thought- I forgot that one. Comparing that with Dash may point a direction towards properly devising a feat that's stackable, or feat chain that works in a balanced way. Of course, if your DM allows you to take a speed increase in place of an ability increase, more power to you (and the feat shouldn't be necessary- it should really be one or the other IMO). In my own game, I'd probably make it a stackable feat, particularly since I've made several others for my house rules. It'd fit right in, though stepping on the metaphorical toes of Speed of Thought probably isn't a good idea.
Thanks for the shout-out Tonguez!
Nyaricus
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El Jeraldo, I would also not be doing justice if I didn't mention my speed rules. Hear me out.
Speed = Strength + Dexterity + Size Mods + Feats + Armour + Load
your Str and Dex SCORES are added firstly. Then add size mods (these are no longer a set amount, -25% for small and dwarves, +25% for large/fast mediums, extrapolatly accordingly as needed). Then feats (these stay in +5 increments as normal per the feat) then Armour mods (no mods for light/none, -25% speed for medium, -50% for heavy) then any load mods (-25%)
any + or - %'s are simply added together and nullifyed (large PC (+25%) with heavy armour (-50%) and a medium load (-25%) would go -50% of his normal speed (normal being Str+Dex) and this is rounded up or down, as an exception to the normal "round down" rule.
Thus if a half giant with 22 Str, 15 Dex and the above mods was walking about, he'd being going 22+15 = 37. 50% of 37 is 18.5, rounded up for a speed of 20 feet. Not bad, with all his heavy armour!
In the end you usually end up with a similar spped number, but those with light or no armour and at least one good Str or Dex score will get an extra 5 to 10 feet in. Personally, I think It works way better, and is a relatively simple system
Speed = Strength + Dexterity + Size Mods + Feats + Armour + Load
your Str and Dex SCORES are added firstly. Then add size mods (these are no longer a set amount, -25% for small and dwarves, +25% for large/fast mediums, extrapolatly accordingly as needed). Then feats (these stay in +5 increments as normal per the feat) then Armour mods (no mods for light/none, -25% speed for medium, -50% for heavy) then any load mods (-25%)
any + or - %'s are simply added together and nullifyed (large PC (+25%) with heavy armour (-50%) and a medium load (-25%) would go -50% of his normal speed (normal being Str+Dex) and this is rounded up or down, as an exception to the normal "round down" rule.
Thus if a half giant with 22 Str, 15 Dex and the above mods was walking about, he'd being going 22+15 = 37. 50% of 37 is 18.5, rounded up for a speed of 20 feet. Not bad, with all his heavy armour!
In the end you usually end up with a similar spped number, but those with light or no armour and at least one good Str or Dex score will get an extra 5 to 10 feet in. Personally, I think It works way better, and is a relatively simple system
El Jeraldo
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Hey, thanks a lot guys for the help. I really like the exchange ability point for the base speed increase. I'm also surprised that I never noticed the dash feet in my CW book. Also I may just be retarded but what book is FR that Nyaricus was referring to that contained "Fleet of Foot".
Nyaricus, that is an awesome way of calculating speed that I will defiantly present to my dm. (mostly cause I'm a human no armor fighter with 18 str and 18 dex)
My ultimate goal is to achieve something that would appear akin to that of the flash step used by the characters in the anime Bleach through wholly physical means or such as a class ability. (My character despises the very essence of magic)
I'm fairly new to the DnD scene, but learning quickly from your guys' experienced advice and am working toward dm'ing my own campaign. Thanks for all the help!
-El Jeraldo
Nyaricus, that is an awesome way of calculating speed that I will defiantly present to my dm. (mostly cause I'm a human no armor fighter with 18 str and 18 dex)
My ultimate goal is to achieve something that would appear akin to that of the flash step used by the characters in the anime Bleach through wholly physical means or such as a class ability. (My character despises the very essence of magic)
I'm fairly new to the DnD scene, but learning quickly from your guys' experienced advice and am working toward dm'ing my own campaign. Thanks for all the help!
-El Jeraldo
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Nyaricus
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My apollogies, I meant to say that it is in the Players Guide to Faerun. Page 38.El Jeraldo said:
Thanks for the love for the speed. Honestly, I have yet to find a better, and more sensible method (although there was a thread on Wizards which was interesting I ahev someplace). Anyways, to me it makes sense that the sickly, weak wizard is going to be a bit slower than the nimble, wirey swashbuckler in the party.El Jeraldo said:
No problem for the help, and welcome to the D&D scene. I've been playing for 7 years, myself, since I was 11, and honestly it has filled more hours withy enjoyment than alot of other crap that could've happened (previous, ex-DM is now a drug addict - you figure it outEl Jeraldo said:
)And best of luck on your camapign world. If you'd like any feedback, feel free to start a post about any details you need help with. We're always here.
genshou said:50 sounds a little fast... you can walk for 8 hours at a speed of 5 miles per hour without taking subdual damage?
I mean, I'm 6'1" if I stand up straight, with most of that length in my legs. I am a 100-meter sprinter. I can't walk for hours on end at 5 miles per hour.
I think covering 40 miles is certainly doable for those in extraordinary shape, there are far shorter times posted here:
http://americasroof.com/?p=129
and this is up a mountain.
It's also important to keep in mind that the D&D movement rules- all wonkiness aside- don't assume you go the entire "overland travel" distance at one stretch. The rules specifically state that the creature doing the moving is assumed to be spreading this travel out over a full day of 16 hours or so, with plenty of rest breaks and meal breaks. Putting aside the notion of whether I or anyone else really have a move rate of 50, the fact is that going that fast for a full 8 hours is next to impossible for anybody except a serious marathon runner, just as genshou implied. But when you pull back and take this assumption into account, the question becomes a different one: could you do it in a day?
My answer is, assuming I started well-rested and had the chances for rest and repast every now and then, yes- I most likely could go 36-40 miles in one day. I've maintained my average walking pace for a couple of hours on several occasions, and that was before I took my job at UPS (which requires me to stand and walk around for at least 3.5 hours every day with only one 10-minute break). These days I can do a 5-hour shift and be barely fatigued, so going all day (given that I can take rest breaks every hour or so for up to an hour each time) would be trivial. I'm not in extraordinary shape (good shape, yes, extraordinary, no)- I just move fast by default.
My answer is, assuming I started well-rested and had the chances for rest and repast every now and then, yes- I most likely could go 36-40 miles in one day. I've maintained my average walking pace for a couple of hours on several occasions, and that was before I took my job at UPS (which requires me to stand and walk around for at least 3.5 hours every day with only one 10-minute break). These days I can do a 5-hour shift and be barely fatigued, so going all day (given that I can take rest breaks every hour or so for up to an hour each time) would be trivial. I'm not in extraordinary shape (good shape, yes, extraordinary, no)- I just move fast by default.
