Asking myself "Why?" about gaming lately...

[tleilaxu]

i don't know about you, but i consider anyone without kids a failure to the human race.

 

[madriel]

Thanks, Nightfall.

Doc, whatever you decide you *need* to do, talk to the DM first. Talk to the other players. Let them know you're feeling burned out.

Taking a week or two off might be the best thing for the group as a whole. Henry has a good idea there. My group's occasionally taken a weekend off and brought out Seafarers of Catan or something from Cheapass Games to socialize outside of the campaign. We had half of our group drop out due to real life tensions and that's no fun at all.

Having fun with your friends is what D&D's all about.

 

[TalonComics]

I think the problem for quite a few of us is we're not getting to play the style of game we want to play. Either the group leans towards something else or the group is too mixed with different gaming styles to be enjoyable.
I have the same problem going on now and the solution was to split the game. The result, to make a long story short, five of the players decided that they didn't want to play with two of the players. That was all it took! Happy game again and no more "how much experience do I get?" at the end of the session.

~Derek

 

[burdett]

Exactly.

i don't know about you, but i consider anyone without kids a failure to the human race.

Not a complete failure, just an evolutionary failure. For millions of years the only reason to exist was to reproduce. Some people apparently believe that it isn't a worthwhile goal.

 

[rounser]

Not a complete failure, just an evolutionary failure. For millions of years the only reason to exist was to reproduce. Some people apparently believe that it isn't a worthwhile goal.

No...I think you're missing something very important.

You're confusing the "goals of your genes" (not that genes have "goals", they just exist) with the goals of an individual. They are not the same thing by a long, long shot. What is "good" for your genes isn't necessarily much fun or healthy for you as an individual, and to not reproduce doesn't constitute a failure for the individual if they don't see it as such.

It's best not to confuse the two. You are not your genes, you're just a carrier....

 

[burdett]

No...I think you're missing something very important.

You're confusing the "goals of your genes" (not that genes have "goals", they just exist) with the goals of an individual. They are not the same thing by a long, long shot. What is "good" for your genes isn't necessarily much fun or healthy for you as an individual, and to not reproduce doesn't constitute a failure for the individual if they don't see it as such.

It's best not to confuse the two. You are not your genes, you're just a carrier....

Read my reply again. I said...

<Not a complete failure, just an evolutionary failure. For millions of years the only reason to exist was to reproduce. Some people apparently believe that it isn't a worthwhile goal.>

I was speaking from an evolutionary standpoint, and from that standpoint, anyone who fails to reproduce is a failure. Your 'feel good' comments that failure is only failure if they see it as such are rubbish.

It doesn't matter what reason or goals you have, failing to pass on your genetic material to a future generation is an evolutionary failure.

If you don't believe me, read a book, or go to college and take a few entry level anthropology courses. It's a fairly basic concept.

 

[Reprisal]

i don't know about you, but i consider anyone without kids a failure to the human race.

Some people apparently believe that [procreation] isn't a worthwhile goal.

It's worthwhile, but not necessarily number one on the priority list... which I consider a positive thing.

Your 'feel good' comments that failure is only failure if they see it as such are rubbish.

What a terrible thing to say to a person! I'd caution you to use some modicum of tact when in discussion here lest you wish to be held in disrepute. That sentence smacks of (arrogant) absolutism when it is clearly not needed. Please, use some decorum and choose what you say a bit better. Civility is the word here, or so I believe it to be...

It doesn't matter what reason or goals you have, failing to pass on your genetic material to a future generation is an evolutionary failure.

Yes, it's established that if we're looking at it from a (very limited) genetic point of view, that if you fail to procreate, you've failed to continue your genetic lineage, but I wouldn't look at it the same way from a more comprehensive point of view. The sentence above makes it seem that you're supporting the view that our only function as human beings is to continue ourselves, when I believe many, many people see it differently. Reducing humanity's reason for existence to mere procreation can be seen as very offensive to some people, and while the idea itself can be debated in a civil matter, the way you've chosen to express it is... well, somewhat distressing.

To The Original Poster and the Moderators: Sorry for hijacking the post, but I felt I had to say something...

 

[Plane Sailing]

Dr M,

I just remembered something that took over from RPGs for me and my group for a while which we really enjoyed - DBA!

Basically a small scale ancients wargames rules with 12 units per side, played on a 2ft square table. It is fresh and interesting, doesn't require a vast capital outlay like most other tabletop wargames and doesn't take long to play. There is some info here http://www.theminiaturespage.com/rules/anc/dba.html

Just another random thought.

 

[Buttercup]

I hate to say this but I see a day coming when my interest may fade out. It may be an inevitability of getting older.

Say it ain't so! I hope to be still playing in the assisted living center, if I can find a bunch of other old coots to play with. I mean, what else will I have to do? It sure beats watching soap operas.

But then, I've just recently (2 years ago) gotten into the hobby, so maybe age isn't the important factor, but number of years (decades?) spent devoted to it. My new group just met for the first time last weekend, and our ages range from 29 to 50. Two of the players are also new to the hobby. The 50 year old (my husband) may not last, but that's more because of his extreme shyness than being uninterested.

 

[Gospog]

Pirate Cat wrote:

I think you're best off taking a break from that group for a while, and then trying out a totally different game system with other people.

I have to agree with PC 100%.

Cheer up, you never know when some awesome GM will invite you into his Star Wars game, and you will meet all new people and have a blast! Maybe this D&D game you're talking about isn't cinematic enough. Maybe there's not enough character interaction?

Sounds like this other group/game is cramping your style.