Author (and artist) of The Book of Erotic Fantasy

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Pirate Queen Eliza said:


Hee hee hee! No, not yet. I'm glad you're interested.

Well, I hear that most of the art in the book will be from live models, and as an amatuer photgrapher myself, whos wanted to take tastefull erotic pictures and such, i'm looking forward to seeing how the book handles it.

As for everything else, I dont know how many times in games i've played there has been a situation where a female PC got pregnant or a male one contracted some disease, or vice versa (male pc impregnanting someone, female getting sick). Usually it was ad hoc stuff done by a crazy DM who was drawing the line between a chuckle and being...disgusting.

I look forward to seeing how the book presents such rules and information. I have no doubt that it will be FAR more tastefull then GURPS Sex, or the infamous F.A.T.A.L.

My one sadness is that a personal friend of mine was writing a book with the same premise to pitch to a d20 company, and now there is no real point for him to continue.
 

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ArthurQ said:
My one sadness is that a personal friend of mine was writing a book with the same premise to pitch to a d20 company, and now there is no real point for him to continue.
Tell him to keep his notes; He might have ideas for things they haven't thought of, or perhaps can take a concept further.:D
 

Anthony Valterra speaks

posted by Anthony Valterra at http://pub53.ezboard.com/fseagothforumfrm27
To those of you who are appreciating the images all credit goes to Valar Projects Art Director (Suan Geluardi), the amazingly talented photographer (Doug "Hypnox" Safford) and our way to young to be this talented photoshop artists (Eliza Gauger, Atchi and once again Susan Geluardi).

My thanks,
Anthony Valterra
Valar Project, Inc.

Just a bit more info that AV posted on a Seattle Goth EZ Board. I tracked some stuff down from Eliza's helpful profile on Andy's site. I've also asked a question of Gwendolyn and now Eliza as well over on Andy's site. Dealing with all of these sites sucks. :( What the frell, I'll post my questions from there here:

(Gwendolyn apologized for sort of brushing this off initially) It's not a brush off yet, honestly, but I did also ask for an opinion. Do you think the press release was wholly responsible (meaning was it fair to the public to represent the book this way) and do you think it was representative of The Book of Erotic Fantasy.

Also, Question for Eliza: When you say "Buzz = royalties. Woot!" and have links to the controversy created by this press release in your livejournal at http://vebelfetzer.livejournal.com/ what impression do you think the average gamer should get?

And, for anyone involved: A while back over on ENWorld Anthony was probing about a subdivision of WotC putting out mature themed products, going so far as to cite Vertigo Comics being part of DC... is that line of questioning related to Valar? Is Valar funded in part or in whole by WotC or does it just so happen that some folks from WotC worked together and Anthony's query was unrelated?

As I get a response I'll post it.

EDIT: fixed a linkage problem and clarified why I mentioned a brush off.
 
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Eridanis said:
Apparently, Ms. Kestrel reads our questions, but can't be bothered to reply to them. Read her condescening comments over at gamingreport:


Well, given that her comments on gaming report were taken from a thread on Andy Collins' Boards where she responded to all of my questions, i'd say that you are sorely mistaken sir.
 

Here's Gwendolyn's response to my questions above from over there at Andy's boards:

Originally posted by Gwendolyn F. M. Kestrel
Well, for those good at subtext interpretations, I did answer it by stating unequivocally that it's not what I would have written.

I wanted to tread that fine line and not express an openly negative opinion.

Instead, you keep asking. Fine.

What I like and don't like is purely subjective and the opinion I'm rendering is about the press release and only that:

I didn't like it.

Valar Project put it out and I feel sure they must have considered what they were saying and not saying. Why they wrote what they did is not something I'll speculate about, so don't ask me.

Any piece of text is about choices, though. What to leave out, what to include, and what to emphasize. They made their decisions and that's fine.

Hypothetical: My philosophical approach to a press release.

I would focus more on the product, include information about the textual content; highlight the art that's being created for it; outline the credentials of the writers, photographer, graphic artists, and other creatives associated with the project; and provide highlights about the book itself.

I would have had a webpage set up ahead of time to display sample images and text to good advantage and a discussion board where people could ask questions and receive authoritative answers.

Kudos to her for doing it the hard way and giving an honest answer.
 

MerakSpielman said:


Uhhhh...

We dont' have a smiliy for blushing do we?


Sorry Nutkin, my faith in you is restored.

I really missed that one.

But hey, I only missed one post....:p


I'll leave my post up there to amuse future travelers to these parts. Glad I could lighten y'alls day.

:)

I must say that literaly made me LOL.

Thanks ;)
 

Truth

Well, I just got in here....(coughing)...ran to get sign up(choking)...to make my said(sneezing)...on this matter too.

And Hi to Ranger Reg, it is I SSII from the Wotc, Oriental Adventures.

I am not to repeat what was said in quotes or snippets.


Just this.....In this country, and its history, there are times when the social well being is examine and improved upon.

Moral, and social consciousness make up this fabric of this society.

And there times, when someone or a minority wishes change, and it grows from there, but in the process of bringing it about, it is talked about, pros and cons examined, advantages and disadvantages are laid on the table.

Such as this book in preproduction, the author and artist had their say. Their views were expressed and heard. Feedback is produce.

Now, why is the book being made, one, it has not been done on a mass market scale.

Two, there are groups of people who would like to further their gaming with more flair. Granted.

Three, the mispresentation of it existence was or if so, a ploy of chance, that for one, it is has been notice greatly....hence free advertisement throughout forums in the states and abroad.

Four, the ying and yang effect, differences of opinions fly across the spectrum, which increases more views and recants, more spotlight on a book not yet released. Manfacturing massive interests.

Five, moral and social impact, discussed in detail by many, Squirrel, my hat is tipped to your Sir. Just one of many. But yet, I have not seen or seen it yet, the question or answer the effect of this material on a younger inmature mind by the 'author'. Reason, striving for recognition in the field, for props, and prestige of being the first to make such book. In lament terms....
make the greenback chickie.

And finally Six, it is their right to publish said material, under the guidelines of the OGL, buttttttt...it is their responibility to the gaming community in general to see that this will not set back or cause the rebirth of a once dying industry(although, maybe I did see a quote on that, reading 6 full forums pages is hard on the eyes) to go back to that undesired scenario.

Yes, I did say it is their responsiblity, as stated before, one or a minority can change the perception of something to a higher degree, and it has history to prove it.

I have stated in EnWorld(The Simple Traveler) on the news section my views and questions on this 'manual'.....I will state here once again, yes, I will buy the book as a collector's item, no, it will be not be used in my games period. That is my choice, as it is their to bring it into public domain.

My concern, and the only one, as pointed out many times, the younger minds that will get their hands on it, and what it can lead to. It is bad enough, that there is a majority of the NEXT generation that are playing this hobby right now, cannot voice their opinion as well.

I have elected myself to do so.

Now, the main questions that need to answered.

On what moral grounds is it needed?

On the social consciousness level, why it is needed after 30+ years of gaming, and the handling is done by DMs in their own style and taste.

And yes, I know.....because we can do it, that is the answer I heard so far.

Well then.....Ms Gwen and the artist involve, is this your legacy to next gaming generation after us, that D&D or whatever is used as roleplaying mechanics.....that the premise of this hobby, should revolve around the art of 'sex.'

Forgive me for sounding coy, last I check, it was the art of roleplaying and adventure of the unknown. And oh, yes there was sex too, but that was done in a tasteful manner(plus no book wasn't there).

Apologies to all if I have restated some comments from the discussion, like before, I just got in finally.

And after such time mentioned, the hell that most of the early players went through with this game......I thought there were lessons learned.

History does not have to repeat itself......consider the possible ramfications of what will be done in the long run, and I know this, and it not wrong, we in this country tend to think in the short term.

Be responsible and be wise, your actions will change the lives of many. As it is so, so shall it be.
 
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I only have this to add:

Whether or not I'd purchase the BoEF would be 100% driven by a combination of the personal dynamics of my gaming group, and my role (and this is really binary: am I/am I not the DM?) in that group.

So far, even with the huge mixture of genders, preferences and attitudes about sex that occur in my group, I come to the conclusion that exactly because we are fairly diverse, no one would be comfortable with one person out of it "laying down the Rules" that the rest of the player's PCs would then have to follow in a campaign, even from a flawlessly-executed game system chronicled expressly for that purpose.

[Humor type="lame"]And if my relatively mellow group can't come to an agreement, I shudder to think of the Rules threads that would appear on ENWorld: "Greater Carnal Magnificence is Broken." "Am I Being Flanked?" "Poll: Should Charm Get Me Breakfast the Morning After?"[/humor]
 

Skaros said:


One point on this. There's no particular need for anyone to provide a good reason is there? At least pertinent to this discussion. If the subject were about whether such a supplement had enough demand to make it successful, this would be an important question.

Skaros

No, no need for a good reason... just a question I had. Curiosity. That's all.
 

I've read several people express concern over the possible damage this book might cause to the reputation of gamers.

Have any of you thought that it might actually improve the reputation of gamers? Some of the too-cool people who put down D&D might be a bit intrigued if they find out there is sex and pictures of nekkid elf babes involved. Especially the jocks. "Porn? You guys have porn? Well, yeah, I'll play, as long as there's porn involved."

Yes, I am joking, but still -- it does give one pause.

As for as my own gaming group -- we already have a pretty mature game. We have four players, all older than 40. Two women, two men, all of whom are married. Two of the players are married to each other. This book would have to be really, really, really out there to be more graphic or bizarre or kinky than our game already is and has been for years.

And there are already products on the market that deal with sex in a mature, matter-of-fact, non-sensationalistic fashion. Go check out the just released "Shelzar: City of Sins," and you will see what I mean. If this BoEF is in a similar vein, I'll probably buy it.

I welcome and applaud more products of this type being done for those who choose to use them. If you don't want it in your game, fine, don't buy it.
 

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