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No, they say it quite expressely. These guys are mercenaries working for the company. It is part of the opening narration Jake gives as he leaves the shuttle.
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No, they say it quite expressely. These guys are mercenaries working for the company. It is part of the opening narration Jake gives as he leaves the shuttle.
Jack7
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That's what my wife said about her people when she married me.
I wonder how that worked out for em?
Anywho, my kids saw it and they said it was, "Awesomesauce Daddy, you've just gotta see it!"
I think that's kid talk for, "We really liked it and I'm glad grandpa took us."
No seriously, they talk like that.
Dire Bare
Legend
Political Message?
Just saw the movie and loved it. Will see it again on the big screen. Didn't do the 3D version, but might the second time around.
Political message? Suuuure . . .
The "message" is as complex as "tribal hunter-gathers" are good and noble, "corporations" are bad. That's about as "political" as the film gets. In the future mankind has environmentally destroyed its own planet, and now is ready to move onto the next one to despoil . . . . ever seen that before?
I know that some parts of the media are trying to sell more papers (or get more eyeballs on the screen) by making a big deal about the "politics" and "philosophy" in the movie . . . . but it's a weak, barely there element.
It's an action movie. A well-done action movie with amazing effects, but still just an action movie.
Just saw the movie and loved it. Will see it again on the big screen. Didn't do the 3D version, but might the second time around.
Political message? Suuuure . . .
The "message" is as complex as "tribal hunter-gathers" are good and noble, "corporations" are bad. That's about as "political" as the film gets. In the future mankind has environmentally destroyed its own planet, and now is ready to move onto the next one to despoil . . . . ever seen that before?
I know that some parts of the media are trying to sell more papers (or get more eyeballs on the screen) by making a big deal about the "politics" and "philosophy" in the movie . . . . but it's a weak, barely there element.
It's an action movie. A well-done action movie with amazing effects, but still just an action movie.
Thanee
First Post
Which is why there is a blood thirsty commander.
Cassander
Explorer
I haven't watched any TV since the World Series, so I haven't seen too much marketing. I did watch a trailer online, and from that I had very low expectations for the story but very high expectations for the visuals. The movie beat both pretty soundly. The story was decent and the visuals were far and away the best I've ever seen. It was like travelling to the future to see what movies will look like years from now. This movie must be seen in 3D. Simply amazing.
I do think the story could have been improved with editing however:
I do think the story could have been improved with editing however:
I would have cut the movie into two parts, with the first movie ending at the fall of the great tree. That'd give a bit more time in the first half for exploring the world of Pandora and the culture of the Na'vi, which for me was the best part of the movie. Truly amazing. The movie really made you understand Jake's reaction to the offer of getting his legs back that night. He was thinking "Legs? Legs? That's supposed to entice me? Out there, I have flown.". The movie worked because you could truly feel the world and it was beyond magical. The most amazing fantasy world ever portrayed on screen, by far.
But the second half the movie had issues, I think, and was a little too skimmed over and shoot-an-up. I'd redo the second half as a whole new movie and hope that fixes things. Certainly, if redone this way, it would have destroyed the whole "formulaic" argument... ending on the fall of the tree would have been ballsy and devastating. Instead of ending on nature rising up to fight back, it'd be about man's unending and unstoppable destruction of nature.
Anyway, I did quite like Jake's story, going from wheelchair bound to exploring Pandora. The visual storytelling on that was really top-notch. Seeing him come back to the real world was painful in a good way. Very sad to see him go back to his real body after what he had tasted. I also liked that they explored the drawbacks of the avatar system, being turned off and what not. I did like the scene where Neytiri meets Jake's real form very good. I just wish they didn't have the "let them have cake" ending of just letting Jake move into the Avatar body permanently. I think a relationship of Jake and Neytiri ongoing with the restrictions of the Avatar ending would have been more interesting.
So overall, I'd say it had the seeds of a truly great movie but was brought down by a few flaws, but still held up by incredible visuals. I'm gonna have to find an IMAX theater to see this again. DVD will not do.
But the second half the movie had issues, I think, and was a little too skimmed over and shoot-an-up. I'd redo the second half as a whole new movie and hope that fixes things. Certainly, if redone this way, it would have destroyed the whole "formulaic" argument... ending on the fall of the tree would have been ballsy and devastating. Instead of ending on nature rising up to fight back, it'd be about man's unending and unstoppable destruction of nature.
Anyway, I did quite like Jake's story, going from wheelchair bound to exploring Pandora. The visual storytelling on that was really top-notch. Seeing him come back to the real world was painful in a good way. Very sad to see him go back to his real body after what he had tasted. I also liked that they explored the drawbacks of the avatar system, being turned off and what not. I did like the scene where Neytiri meets Jake's real form very good. I just wish they didn't have the "let them have cake" ending of just letting Jake move into the Avatar body permanently. I think a relationship of Jake and Neytiri ongoing with the restrictions of the Avatar ending would have been more interesting.
So overall, I'd say it had the seeds of a truly great movie but was brought down by a few flaws, but still held up by incredible visuals. I'm gonna have to find an IMAX theater to see this again. DVD will not do.
Gog
First Post
Not to nit pick but there is no such thing, Jake even says that. It would be former marine.
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