Azrael..what ya think? scared? :) I am!!!

[Fieari]

Hm. I'd personally prefer to wait until Ascention is out before making DEATH... it needs some Trascedental Abilities, I think.

But that said, I can tell that you used Sandalphon as the base creature here. What templates did you apply?

 

[poilbrun]

I do have a question though: having stated out "Death," what happens if the party actually becomes a high enough level to kill him? Does death stop?

That's actually a very good question and a rather interesting idea for cosmic-level adventure(for those not familiar with Upper Krust work, cosmic-level is the term he uses for higher than high-epic). It could also have interesting repercussions on a low-level campaign: what happens to our heroes when the orcs they fireballed do no die?

Well, there's Epic, and there's LA: +277, which this being is. Have to agree with Airwalkrr... I really don't see the point of statting such a being out. It's even beyond the scope of epic.

Well, you have to put it in perspective. In Upper Krust's bestiary, of which both Dante and myself are fans, the monster with the highest CR is the Neutronium Golem with a CR of 9721. Of course, it's the only monster with such a high CR (and Upper Krust said himself that it was created in part to see how far he could take the system), but the point is that if your multiverse has room for CR 9k+ monsters, CR 288 are not that exceptional, especially not when they represent unique creatures that embodies such fundamentals as Death.


Edit: Fieari, Dante said he applied the Amidah and Akalich templates

 

[Fieari]

There needs to be a Hierarchy of Deaths, I think. Everything ends, mortals, immortals, cosmics, etc... I've this idea that there should be a "Death" for each category. Via templating and such, each Death would technically qualify as the thing it ends... so the Death of Mortals would be a mortal itself (much like Piers Anthony's "Incarnations of Immortality" series)... the Death of Gods would be a god, the Death of Old Ones would be an Old One, etc etc etc etc, all the way up to having the Death of Time... who would qualify as a High Lord.

 

[freebfrost]

(I'd just have Cloud Summon Knights of the Round and be done with this...)

I'd have to agree with RisnDevil - you aren't going to find a tremendous amount of support on EnWorld for uber-level play. Dicefreaks would probably more helpful in critiquing your creation.

 

[Fieari]

(I'd just have Cloud Summon Knights of the Round and be done with this...)

Not powerful enough. According to U_K, Final Fantasy VII level correspond to D20 levels at roughly a 4:1 ratio. The Omega Weapon itself is only CR 66. See: the weapons (final fantasy)

 

[freebfrost]

Not powerful enough. According to U_K, Final Fantasy VII level correspond to D20 levels at roughly a 4:1 ratio.[/url]

Hmm... (130,000 points of damage / 4) = 32,500 points of damage per use.

Seems powerful enough to me.

 

[Fieari]

Levels, not damage. And note that in FF, there's a disparity between monster HP/damage of a given level, and player HP/damage, such that the numbers for players doing damage are greater, but monsters have more HP than players anyway.

 

[Quartz]

Looking at the creature itself, why have an anti-magic shell when it's largely magic immune anyway?

 

[Xereq]

A player would have to be divine rank 32+ and kill him 2d4+1 times, all 35,400 hp of him, because he recovers it all every time you kill him, oh and you have to kill him each time with a Good aligned artifact or epic smite spell. That hardly seems like a challenge, seems more like too many words for "all your characters are dead." Could you posibly explain to us how a party of PCs could best Azreal under any curcumstance?

 

[Kafkonia]

Dante58701 - I don't know if you are familiar with it, but I suggest you go to and post this information at Dicefreaks. If you don't know about it, there is a very large community there that truly supports Epic level play, as opposed to the response you got here.

Dante's mentioned more than once that he's banned -- well, that his IP address is banned thanks to his roommate -- from Dicefreaks.

That having been said, MY math-fu and Epic creation-fu are not so great, so I cannot give much input. I do have a question though: having stated out "Death," what happens if the party actually becomes a high enough level to kill him? Does death stop?

As with so many things, the answer to this conundrum lies in an episode of Family Guy. Death sprains his ankle, so while he's laid up people stop dying. They have to find a temp to replace him.