[B.A.D.D.] Dragon Spell List Feedback

[HeavyG]

I like the idea, and certainly agree that they should (or at least some should worship the dragon deities. The fact remains, though, that they cast the spell as an *arcane* spell.

Should it still be based on a deity? I'm asking for advice here - I just don't know.

It's clear that they use the arcane spell rules to cast them. But for some spells that require the input of a god (commune and miracle, for example), I'd say that dragons use the dragon gods.

If the only problem you have is a divine focus, I'd just say it requires the exact same focus, except it's an arcane focus in their case. Of change it to anything else that costs the same amount of gp.

Or you just rule that dragons don't need components or spell foci. I just don't see a colossal dragon carrying around a very tiny spell component pouch with things like piches of powder and 1 inch gems in it.

It's not really important, I think.

 

[CRGreathouse]

For the spells with expensive foci, I still like the idea of a statue of the dragon itself... or perhaps a giant silver mirror.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

components...

Do dragons even require components for their sorcerer spells?

 

[CRGreathouse]

Re: components...

Do dragons even require components for their sorcerer spells?

I don't see anything indicating otehrwise in the MM (pages 9 and 62).

 

[Numion]

Arcane:

Level 1 - Shield, Mage Armor
Level 2 - Mirror Image <-- this is a must. It works for targeted spells also!

Divine:

Level 1 - Divine Favor, a must for older dragons. A great wyrm red will have +6 to dam & hit!

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

This has been a pretty fun thread.

After the list has been put up, you might consider what scrolls and wands a dragon might want.

Do we have a finalized list yet?

 

[CRGreathouse]

Do we have a finalized list yet?

Yes. Here's the list that's been programmed into my generator:

0 - 'detect magic','resistance','detect poison','read magic','dancing lights','ghost sound','mage hand','open/close','mending'
1 - 'endure elements','mage armor','shield','true strike','charm person'
2 - 'bull\'s strength','cat\'s grace','blur','endurance','fog cloud'
3 - 'haste','dispel magic','protection from elements','slow'
4 - 'dimension door','improved invisibility','detect scrying','confusion'
5 - 'cloudkill','dominate person','summon monster V','teleport'
6 - 'greater dispelling','disintegrate','programmed image'
7 - 'spell turning','greater scrying','forcecage'
8 - 'mass charm','maze','protection from spells'
9 - 'foresight','time stop','dominate monster'

For cleric-casters (same as above except):
1 - 'endure elements','mage armor','cure light wounds','shield','true strike'
4 - 'spell immunity','dimension door','improved invisibility','detect scrying'
5 - 'cloudkill','righteous might','dominate person','teleport'
6 - 'heal','greater dispelling','harm'
7 - 'spell turning','destruction','greater scrying'
9 - 'miracle','foresight','time stop'

 

[Conaill]

What, no Contingency??

 

[Artoomis]

What, no Contingency??

Contingency is an absolute necessity. It is the solution to Harm and a number of other bad situations for the dragon - contingent teleport, or something similar (dimension door would work, too) to get out of trouble.

 

[CRGreathouse]

What, no Contingency??

You were the first one to suggest that on this whole thread.

What do you suggest changing the two 6th-level lists to?