Bad Faith and Sealioning

[niklinna]

All I know is, I'd been looking for an inspiration for a new avatar, and this hit the bullseye.

 

[FrogReaver]

All I know is, I'd been looking for an inspiration for a new avatar, and this hit the bullseye.

Glad I could help

 

[Morrus]

Okay, but I’m asking about when other non-mod posters accuse someone else of sealioning?

If you think somebody is breaking the rules, use the report post button.

Be aware that if you are sealioning, that will also bring that to our attention.

 

[Bedrockgames]

My view on bad faith is it is actually very rare in a place like this. More often if someone seems to be behaving towards me in a bad faith way, I have come to realize they aren't necessarily trying to be bad faith (they may simply be making a poor argument, not being logically consistent, allowing their emotions to color their impressions of my posts, etc). But usually they are, I think, coming from a place of real authentic disagreement

In terms of the sea lioning label. I sometimes find it a hard concept to wrap my head around, but I have seen it thrown my way from time to time, when it has, I never have felt it was an accurate label to affix to what I was doing. I I know what my intentions are. I can see how people might misread them though

 

[FrogReaver]

If you think somebody is breaking the rules, use the report post button.

Be aware that if you are sealioning, that will also bring that to our attention.

Thanks for the non-answer. Consider this post as me dropping the question.

 

[payn]

My view on bad faith is it is actually very rare in a place like this. More often if someone seems to be behaving towards me in a bad faith way, I have come to realize they aren't necessarily trying to be bad faith (they may simply be making a poor argument, not being logically consistent, allowing their emotions to color their impressions of my posts, etc). But usually they are, I think, coming from a place of real authentic disagreement

In terms of the sea lioning label. I sometimes find it a hard concept to wrap my head around, but I have seen it thrown my way from time to time, when it has, I never have felt it was an accurate label to affix to what I was doing. I I know what my intentions are. I can see how people might misread them though

I think the idea that sea-lioning is always bad faith isnt necessarily the case. I think some folks may have good intentions, just a lack of self-awareness that they are, in fact, sea-lioning. Generally speaking here, not aimed at you.

 

[cbwjm]

I always liked this cartoon for this topic.
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I think the relentless asking for proof is going too far. When someone says something in a thread, someone else is not going to like it. To ask if you have proof of that thing is ok, but going on for several posts is too much for me.

I tend to see this more when something more political is involved. The thread about Elon Musk is one where it seems people bashing him and I stopped looking at it after page two.

Thanks for posting the cartoon. Whenever someone mentions sealioning I'm always like "WTF is sealioning?"

 

[Divine2021]

It’s 2024, I find it vaguely embarrassing to see someone accuse someone of “sealining.”

 

[niklinna]

I think the idea that sea-lioning is always bad faith isnt necessarily the case. I think some folks may have good intentions, just a lack of self-awareness that they are, in fact, sea-lioning. Generally speaking here, not aimed at you.

The term includes bad faith as part of its meaning. If someone is asking way too many questions about something, they may not be doing it in bad faith, but then the term doesn't apply. Although an accusation of it can still be made!

 

[Morrus]

Thanks for the non-answer. Consider this post as me dropping the question.

It was the actual answer. Report posts if you think they are breaking the rules.