Barbarian Class in this month's Dragon !

[Danzauker]

Especially since they don't actually make use of any advantage of digital distribution. They don't update the individual articles when the final version is relased. There's no quick'n' easy html version - articles are released either only in PDF or only in html. There's no real indexing or cross-linking going on. It's a pretty bare distribution.

Agree.

I hate killing trees like anybody else around, but I admit that nothing compares to having something to read in printed format.

That said, I could stand it if they gave me something that printed paper can not give me, such as indexing, linking, word search, and all the other stuff that the digital media has to offer.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Especially since they don't actually make use of any advantage of digital distribution. They don't update the individual articles when the final version is relased. There's no quick'n' easy html version - articles are released either only in PDF or only in html. There's no real indexing or cross-linking going on. It's a pretty bare distribution.

I am not sure there is a need for individual articles to be updated - as long as the final is. If you want to print out only individual articles, you can do this with the PDF, too.

What would be nice is if they would offer HTML and PDF versions of each article or the entire magazine. This would allow better cross-referencing and hyper-linking.

I think the major reason why they don't use this options so far is because of the differences in layouting. (That's probably the reason we don't see landscape and potrait PDFs.) Layouting doesn't get cheaper for digital documents.

 

[Kzach]

That said, I could stand it if they gave me something that printed paper can not give me, such as indexing, linking, word search, and all the other stuff that the digital media has to offer.

Yeah, this. I mean, really, even the index is bare file names ffs. One person, spending one day, could easily index it properly, insert internal document links, and interactive external links to special content on the website, like, for instance, pre-prepared and monitored forum discussions with Q&A's from the author or the new Skip Williams (whoever is doing it nowadays).

There's so much they could do that requires very little effort but they're not even going to the minimal amount of effort to even clean up the file names for the index. It's pretty sad, really.

As long as they have this lax approach to their content production, it honestly doesn't matter how good the material they're presenting is or how pretty the pages are, they are still shooting themselves in the foot almost every step they take.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I do apologise, I appear to have derailed this thread from its original purpose.

Perhaps we should get back to speculation about Barbarians

 

[Exen Trik]

Perhaps we should get back to speculation about Barbarians

So... defender, or striker?

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Still thinking Striker is the most appropriate. But we have so many of those, I wouldn't mind seeing another Defender.

 

[Vael]

I originally believed Defender, given "Races and Classes" talks of it having the same relationship to the Druid as the Paladin does with the Cleric. That and Barbarians are known for their front-line damage-soaking ability.

However, and this is pure hearsay, it was mentionned by someone who talked to one of the Developers at GenCon, that the Barbarian was a Striker.

Both fit the Barbarian, in my mind, to the point where whichever the Barbarian is, it'll have a strong secondary feel in the other class.

 

[fba827]

Regarding possible role,

I personally envision it as a beefy striker.

However, going on comparison, in the MM, a Goblin Skullcrusher that has a rage effect, is classified as a Brute (and not a skirmisher) and Brute does seem to equate closest to (but not always) a defender.

 

[Syrsuro]

"Barbarian" can go either way. What I would like to see eventually is something more like a Barbarian Defender, and a Berserker Striker (although the image of many D&D players of the barbarian is very berserker-ish, it needn't be so).

(Of course, the term 'barbarian' really oughtn't be a class anyway. Its more a cultural type. Barbarians - whatever they are - ought to be found in a variety of different classes: barbarian wizards, barbarian fighters, barbarian warlords, etc. But that ship sailed back in the AD&D days with the original Unearthed Arcana.).

Carl

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I wounder if the 'stict' of primal classes is two roles...I think I read that druid was that way...so maybe a defender that when rageing is a striker...or maybe I have let my fever get the better of me...