Baseball discussion thread

[John Crichton]

Close game, though marred by that brawl. Too bad Pedro was slightly shaky and the Sox bats are stll asleep...

The Sox bats aren't asleep, they are being put to sleep. Good pitching always trumps good hitting. Pedro didn't have it tonight, that is true.

If anyone saw the postgame on YES, Clemens was massively pissed. Took the coaches all they had to settle him down and not retaliate.

 

[John Crichton]

On the subject of the Red Sox, could somebody please answer a question. What is with the new "Cowboy Up" mantra? I understand that it is a rodeo expression for "get your act together", but why is it now associated with a team from Boston, Massachusetts? The last time that a real rodeo actually came to Boston it was headlined by Wild Bill Hickok.

Was one of the Boston players sayings, not sure which. Maybe a Red Sox fan knows.

EDIT: It is Kevin Millar's "motto."

 

[stevelabny]

Red Sox fans are so desperate to latch on to ANY bit of hope..
that they adopted the "Cowboy Up" thing from the redneck players who started it. Sad. Bostonians in cowboy hats, is anything more ridiculous?

And as for Pedro not having it...he pitched like he always pitches in big games...just good enough to LOSE.
He's a pathetic excuse for a big game pitcher.
And a punk.
As bad as everyone always wants to say Clemens is, I hope people finally realize that Pedro is the biggest punk pitcher in the major leagues. What a dirtbag. Zim shoulda kicked him in the nuts and cleated him in the face.

Maybe Pedro can redeem himself in his next start...
Which will be mid-April, 2004.

Bring on the Cubbies and we'll rip their hopes and dreams to shreds too.

 

[Zerakon]

Timlin is a Texan and brought the phrase. Kevin Millar, the spiritual leader of the team propagated it.

As far as Sox bats being asleep/put to sleep, it's a little of both. Nomar for instance, has been asleep at the plate for about a month.

As far as this game, I had a feeling the Red Sox were going to lose this game as soon as they jumped out to a 2-0 lead. Part of me was happy that the Sox lost this one, Pedro conjured up some bad karma with that pitch to Karim Garcia. There's no reason for that baloney. That whole 4th inning was sort of pathetic, especially the Zimmer vs Pedro part.

 

[Zerakon]

Red Sox fans are so desperate to latch on to ANY bit of hope..

Some Red Sox fans.

Bring on the Cubbies and we'll rip their hopes and dreams to shreds too.

Some Yankees fans have class.

 

[stevelabny]

Some Red Sox fans.


Some Yankees fans have class.

i gave up class a long time ago in this thread
i dont need no steeenkin' class

i thought ripping the hopes and the dreams of cubs fans to shreds was funny.
i just laughed again. its definately funny.

 

[John Crichton]

Timlin is a Texan and brought the phrase. Kevin Millar, the spiritual leader of the team propagated it.

Ah, I knew there was a Texan on there somewhere. The term may be annoying (I don't know how Boston fans view it) but nothing is as annoying as the Rally Monkey from last year.

As far as Sox bats being asleep/put to sleep, it's a little of both. Nomar for instance, has been asleep at the plate for about a month.

He's pretty much the only one. Everyone else has been hitting ok. But the Yankee pitchers deserve some credit for holding down what is the best offense in baseball.

As far as this game, I had a feeling the Red Sox were going to lose this game as soon as they jumped out to a 2-0 lead. Part of me was happy that the Sox lost this one, Pedro conjured up some bad karma with that pitch to Karim Garcia. There's no reason for that baloney. That whole 4th inning was sort of pathetic, especially the Zimmer vs Pedro part.

That was a bad move by Pedro, hitting Garcia. I know Pedro has a history of losing it, mentally, when he gives up runs but his team really needed him to gut out a performance and he let them down. He didn't have his best stuff tonight but the great pitchers always find a way even when they don't have their best stuff.

I'm happy that my team won. Take out the stuff in the 9th and the 4th and you have a great ballgame. Classic New York vs. Boston. Lost in all of this was another terrific job by Rivera and more clutch hitting by Jeter, the new Mr. October. I still can't believe Clemens didn't bean anyone but that is a good thing.

Final note: Good move by the Red Sox management to stop selling beer after the 4th inning near-brawl. It could have been worse than it was.

 

[John Crichton]

i gave up class a long time ago in this thread
i dont need no steeenkin' class

i thought ripping the hopes and the dreams of cubs fans to shreds was funny.
i just laughed again. its definately funny.

There's no need to tempt fate, man. The Yanks haven't won anything yet and neither have the Cubs.

I say this as one Yankee fan to another.

 

[thalmin]

The Cubs are just one win away from the WOOORRRLLLD SERIES ! ! !
I must be dreaming.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

The Cubs are just one win away from the WOOORRRLLLD SERIES ! ! !
I must be dreaming.

Prepare for the world to end.