The_Universe
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YES!!!John Crichton said:
Battlestar Galactica commentary on Farscape
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John Crichton
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Heheh.The_Universe said:YES!!!
BSG is a wonderful show and the best genre TV on the air at the moment (er, on break at the moment). But it'll have to give me at least 4-5 more years to equal Buffy/Farscape status. I'll enjoy watching it try and do so - and hopefully succeed.
Interesting, I would go the other way: I feel Farscape the better of the two shows, my love for it knows no end and I really dislike BSG. I enjoyed the caharacters, the plots, the interactions on Farscape as much as I did B5, BSG did not grab me from the get go, the characters were weak at the beginning, yes, they have gotten better but... then there was some other issues that I will not go into.
Now, here is the kicker, I don't think BSG could not be without Farscape, Buffy, Angel and B5, put forth in story lines, it has been a progression, now you see a number of shows that push just a bit more. Times change, ideas change, fan base change...
then there was some other issues that I will not go into. Now, here is the kicker, I don't think BSG could not be without Farscape, Buffy, Angel and B5, put forth in story lines, it has been a progression, now you see a number of shows that push just a bit more. Times change, ideas change, fan base change...
DonTadow
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Kinda disappointed in hearing a comment like that. As far as shows go Battlestar is right up there with Farscape and its because of evolution. I stopped watching BSG last year because I missed a few episodes and coulnd't get into it until i had achance to watch the summer returns. I started watching Farscape at the end of Season 2 and it seamed really straight forward. Prison ship, criton has wormhole knowledge in his head hate love relationship with Aeryon.DreadPirateMurphy said:
Volaran
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I think I originally caught a few episodes mid first season of Farscape when it was airing late night/early morning on YTV (in Canada), and then again starting around third season when they were showing it here on weekends on Space.
It struck me as a high quality show, but I had a fair bit of difficulty putting it all in context. I'm glad I've been able to catch it straight through now that it is complete, as I quite enjoyed it.
I've had a great time with BSG so far, and have been watching the DVD commentaries. Remembering threads on this board during the save Farscape campaigns, the first thing that occured to me when I heard that comment on the comment in question was "I wonder how long until a thread about this shows up on ENWorld?". Obviously, not long.
I sort of expect to hear these sorts of comments on DVDs. The commentary is where you hear the story about how things came up, the creators swearing up a storm, ect. There is a reason there are disclaimers about DVD commentary. I've just been watching the commentary on "Act of Contrition", and one of the initial lines is something to the effect of "Here we are, fresh from the drinking experiment that was our commentary of Bastille Day."
It seems natural to me for creators to compare themselves and their efforts, jokingly or not, to other shows in their genre. I don't blame them for it, and I don't want them to sensor themselves for me. I don't see much point in the commentary if they are censoring themselves.
It struck me as a high quality show, but I had a fair bit of difficulty putting it all in context. I'm glad I've been able to catch it straight through now that it is complete, as I quite enjoyed it.
I've had a great time with BSG so far, and have been watching the DVD commentaries. Remembering threads on this board during the save Farscape campaigns, the first thing that occured to me when I heard that comment on the comment in question was "I wonder how long until a thread about this shows up on ENWorld?". Obviously, not long.
I sort of expect to hear these sorts of comments on DVDs. The commentary is where you hear the story about how things came up, the creators swearing up a storm, ect. There is a reason there are disclaimers about DVD commentary. I've just been watching the commentary on "Act of Contrition", and one of the initial lines is something to the effect of "Here we are, fresh from the drinking experiment that was our commentary of Bastille Day."
It seems natural to me for creators to compare themselves and their efforts, jokingly or not, to other shows in their genre. I don't blame them for it, and I don't want them to sensor themselves for me. I don't see much point in the commentary if they are censoring themselves.
LightPhoenix
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My favorite BSG commentary by far is when Ron Moore explains why the corners are cut off of everything. It's so rediculously stupid that I seriously can't watch the show without noticing it now. I think it was the season two eppy with Lucy Lawless as the reporter... he explains why they cropped the video like they did.
Honestly, as far as curves go, I think BSG is ahead of Farscape as far as quality goes. Keeping in mind Farscape had a full first season (22 eps IIRC) versus BSG's thirteen episode first season... well, the quality on BSG really is better than Farscape at the equivalent point. Farscape was great, but BSG is better.
Honestly, as far as curves go, I think BSG is ahead of Farscape as far as quality goes. Keeping in mind Farscape had a full first season (22 eps IIRC) versus BSG's thirteen episode first season... well, the quality on BSG really is better than Farscape at the equivalent point. Farscape was great, but BSG is better.
edemaitre
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Farscape and the new Battlestar Galactica
Yes, both "Farscape" and the newer "Battlestar Galactica" are well-produced space operas and have loyal fan bases. While I'm probably in the minority in preferring the sense of wonder and aliens of "Farscape," I think both are relatively heavy on continuity and have had a darkening tone, reflecting current trends in television in general.
Many genre entertainment fans have recently complained about the lack of continuity in the idealistic "Star Trek: the Next Generation," but let us remember that it was one of a few shows that helped lead to a rebirth of sci-fi TV in the past decade or two, from the dueling "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" and "Babylon 5," through "The X-Files" and "Buffy: the Vampire Slayer," and now with the long-running "Stargates" and the revisionist "Galactica." If only fantasy would catch up with science fiction, as it has in the movies!
I like shows such as "Doctor Who," "Highlander: the Series," "Farscape" and "Stargate" not because they're "continuity-lite" but because of their sympathetic characters, heroic plots, grand settings, and occasional social allegory. Isn't that what drew most of us to genre shows and role-playing? IMHO, Ron Moore's "Galactica" has been rather heavy-handed in plot (the trope of robots rebelling and destroying most of humanity in a theological debate), makes most of its female characters sex objects or martyrs, and overstates its claims of originality. But I'm still enjoying it and am curious about where it will lead. I think balancing long-term stories (currently exemplified by "Lost") and more accessible one-shot weekly episodes (say, "Smallville") is a challenge that any producer or Game Master can appreciate.
I don't think I'm alone in being disappointed in the premature cancellations of many genre shows or in the SciFi Channel's decision to run schlock horror or reruns of only a few selected shows rather than "classic" speculative fiction or original programming outside of its Sci-Friday block. Ideally, television should entertain and enlighten all of us, reflecting our varied preferences... It's too bad that many licensed D20 games haven't gotten ongoing support, but my bookshelves are crowded enough already...
Yes, both "Farscape" and the newer "Battlestar Galactica" are well-produced space operas and have loyal fan bases. While I'm probably in the minority in preferring the sense of wonder and aliens of "Farscape," I think both are relatively heavy on continuity and have had a darkening tone, reflecting current trends in television in general.
Many genre entertainment fans have recently complained about the lack of continuity in the idealistic "Star Trek: the Next Generation," but let us remember that it was one of a few shows that helped lead to a rebirth of sci-fi TV in the past decade or two, from the dueling "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" and "Babylon 5," through "The X-Files" and "Buffy: the Vampire Slayer," and now with the long-running "Stargates" and the revisionist "Galactica." If only fantasy would catch up with science fiction, as it has in the movies!
I like shows such as "Doctor Who," "Highlander: the Series," "Farscape" and "Stargate" not because they're "continuity-lite" but because of their sympathetic characters, heroic plots, grand settings, and occasional social allegory. Isn't that what drew most of us to genre shows and role-playing? IMHO, Ron Moore's "Galactica" has been rather heavy-handed in plot (the trope of robots rebelling and destroying most of humanity in a theological debate), makes most of its female characters sex objects or martyrs, and overstates its claims of originality. But I'm still enjoying it and am curious about where it will lead. I think balancing long-term stories (currently exemplified by "Lost") and more accessible one-shot weekly episodes (say, "Smallville") is a challenge that any producer or Game Master can appreciate.
I don't think I'm alone in being disappointed in the premature cancellations of many genre shows or in the SciFi Channel's decision to run schlock horror or reruns of only a few selected shows rather than "classic" speculative fiction or original programming outside of its Sci-Friday block. Ideally, television should entertain and enlighten all of us, reflecting our varied preferences... It's too bad that many licensed D20 games haven't gotten ongoing support, but my bookshelves are crowded enough already...
noretoc
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I like BSG, but It isn't as original as everyone is saying. It seems to be a cross between the old series and Space: Above and Beyond. It is higher quality then SAB, but the whole space marine thing is there and the reality tone. It is probably what SAB could have been, genre wise.
As for Farscape, I loved it in the beginning, but the last season was horrible in my opinion, They got too caught up in thier own plot. It is like a D&D adventure where the group goes from quest to quest, to saving the world. It can be great, but after 12 sessions of it, it get a little blah... I think if they had stuck to thier earlier format, where the shows were fun to watch and didn't leave you with the whole "How are they gonna fix the whole wormhole stuff" if would have leasted longer. The classic episodes to me are when something is introduced and it is resolved in a couple of episodes. Then they go back to being the group you love. That is one of the things I like about firefly. Things from earlier episodes come back and haunt them, but they still go about there business. Toward the end, Farscapes business was all wrapped up in one thing, and it lacked the variety and fun it had in the beginning.
As for Farscape, I loved it in the beginning, but the last season was horrible in my opinion, They got too caught up in thier own plot. It is like a D&D adventure where the group goes from quest to quest, to saving the world. It can be great, but after 12 sessions of it, it get a little blah... I think if they had stuck to thier earlier format, where the shows were fun to watch and didn't leave you with the whole "How are they gonna fix the whole wormhole stuff" if would have leasted longer. The classic episodes to me are when something is introduced and it is resolved in a couple of episodes. Then they go back to being the group you love. That is one of the things I like about firefly. Things from earlier episodes come back and haunt them, but they still go about there business. Toward the end, Farscapes business was all wrapped up in one thing, and it lacked the variety and fun it had in the beginning.
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