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Being forced to quit

Mitchbones said:
If those kids are as bratty as you say, they could probably use a firm male influence (I am assuming you are male) more than you need gaming. Start spending time with them and eventually start teaching them how to game.

Um, technically, it doesn't have to be a strong "male" role model. A strong female can just as easily get the job done. There're families where the mother is the big boss and the father is the more sensitive one.

What should be said is he should be the role model for discipline and strength tempered with care and love as opposed to the mother's obvious role of gentle nurturing.
 

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Agamon wrote:
Lots of advice for an OP that didn't want any...

Well, if one is going to vent on these boards, then be prepared to receive the good and bad commentary the vent will elicit.

If one doesn't want the criticism / advice, then don't post .... and since he chose to post....
 

Shazman said:
This is an extremely untolerable situation for me.
"Untolerable?" :confused:

There aren't words to express my rage.
Aha! That explains why you're making up your own. No worries, mate, there's a word to express it, now. :p

Anyway, given your feelings on the situation, I'd end the relationship -- you'll probably being doing a favor for all concerned.
 



Shazman said:
I've had to cancel both my D&D sessions this weeked to watch my SO's bratty, undisciplined kids.

I'm assuming SO is female and you are male, arestrictly for ease of typing. If it's some other situation, just switch gender-sensitive references where applicable. I'm also broadly assuming that this is not a casual or brand spanking new relationship. Should either be the case, ignore everything written below and simply make it clear to your SO that you have no intentions of getting into a serious relationship with a parent, and therefore you are not going to babysit.

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SO may be guilty of placing childcare responsibilities on your shoulders in such a way that it is unnecessary (e.g. SO's parents are close by and would happily watch the kids during your regular gaming time) or truly unfair (e.g. SO expects you to watch the kids every Saturday and Sunday so that she can go pursue her own solo recreation, whilst being unwilling to compromise to allow you time to do the same). But if SO is off working or taking care of other necessary responsibilities, and the fact that you're the only person who can watch the kids at these times just happens to be blowing your gaming schedule to heck, well... did it ever occur to you that you chose to enter a relationship with a SO who had kids, and that something this was a definite possibility?

If you are not willing to ever "babysit" the children you were somehow duped into having to include in your relationship with their mother, then end the relationship now, because it will never work out in the long run. Do you expect your SO to continue to live as a single parent forever and a day while you continue to live as a childless man, under the same roof (one day, if not currently)? Being in a serious romantic relationship - with anyone, kids or no kids - necessitates a willingness on behalf of both of you to compromise and even make some sacrifices to integrate your individual lives into a shared life together. It also necessitates the maturity to not blame your SO for having to make those compromises and sacrifices.

It's probably going to become a regular occurance, and I may be forced to quit gaming altogether. I'm not asking for advice, just venting. It's one thing to quit because of burnout or a hectic shedule, it's quite another to be forced to quit by someone else.

It is unacceptable for a single, childless person to get into a serious relationship with a single parent and then proceed to treat the children involved as consequential burdens. In entering such a relationship, you chose to eventually become a parent figure, if not a full-fledged parent, to your SO's children, assuming responsibility for them as though they were your own. That may mean necessary compromise, or even giving up some of the things you love, due to having to take care of them. That is never "babysitting," so if you're well into this relationship and still see it as that, it's time to take a hard look at said relationship's reality and think about whether or not you can live with it.

I've seen others forced out of the game by an SO, and I pittied them. Now the same thing is happening to me, and I just want to die.

Having a SO nag you to quit gaming for no good reason or for selfish reasons is entirely different than the responsibilties of the life and the relationship you got yourself into forcing you to quit. The latter is not a case of person insisting that you quit, even if it is their specific responsibilities that create the problem. It is far more accurately described as the hectic schedule of the shared responsibilities you assumed in your relationship forcing the quit. And didn't you say that'd be a very different situation?

It seems pretty clear, despite all the unanswered questions, that your SO's kids don't rate highly on your list of priorities. Referring to them us undisciplined brats doesn't convey any affection for them whatsoever, let alone tolerance. Raging to the point of loss of coherent thought about how they're screwing up your life and specifically not wanting any advice, for example, from parents on the board who manage to game with kids of all ages running all over the house, shows nothing but a total lack of willingness to make any compromise on the issue whatsoever.

If I'm reading into that correctly, do them a favour and get out of your SO's life, and theirs. That dynamic under one roof, where a formerly-single parent's SO has nothing but barely concealed (let alone open) contempt for the children involved is sheer poison. If you don't want kids and all of the responsibilities that come with them, you're in the wrong relationship.
 

Bringing up kids is very hard ( i hvae two)

Bringing up someone elses must be even harder, i dont think i could do it

My gaming is very importnat to me

Im sure i wld feel pretty much the same as the OP if the situation arose

No advice

Just a bit of empathy

good luck in yr future

John
 

Good luck man. Some things (like needing to work, if that is the case in this instance) are beyond our control. Can you get a sitter once a week so you can still game? Or once every other week? Can gaming switch to your house so you can watch them and game? That is what we had to do. As the only female gamer in the group and the wife of the DM, it only made sense to keep gaming at our house (it was at another members' house for a long while) after we had our daughter. She interferes a bit in the first part of the evening, but I take care of it, and then after she goes to bed, there are no further interruptions.....

And I do agree with some of the above posters who say if you are in ths one for the long haul, then it is time to accept your new role and become a good disciplinarian and role model. Of course, you may be trying to do so already, I don't know. Change doesn't happen overnight though. It may be time to start doing some reading on parenting, I know I do, many times expert advice for problems is quite helpful.
 

There are a lot of posts without a reply from the originator of the thread.

So, what are the answers to some of these questions Shazman?

Lots of us have kids or work with kids, or have had to take a hiatus from gaming because of kids. Lots of us have SOs or have had to balance SOs with gaming. So, even though you came to vent, some of us might also be able to help.

Dave
 

Nonlethal Force said:
While I think some of the advice in this post is warranted, I am deeply offended by one significant point of content. Why do you assume that the poster is male? I don't see anything in the post to so assume. I agree that the OP's username and western culture implies that the OP is most likely a man ...

Why would you assume that it isn't a same sex relationship? It could be two men for all we know, just as much as it could be two women.
 

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