Berserk Anime/Manga?

[Doc_Subtlety]

I love Berserk.

But the Skull Knight is integral to the Black Sun event...and he's not there. It changes things dramatically...

Sure did for me. I saw the anime first, and the fact that Gatz escaped the event really confused me until I had a chance to flip through the manga.

Didn't really like Puck, though. Just on general principles: comic relief just didn't feel right in that world.

 

[WizarDru]

I love Berserk.

Sure did for me. I saw the anime first, and the fact that Gatz escaped the event really confused me until I had a chance to flip through the manga.

Didn't really like Puck, though. Just on general principles: comic relief just didn't feel right in that world.

How far have you gotten in the manga? There are points where it would just be unbearably dark and depressing without him. Puck's best moment is probably when he drives off some apostle spirits that haunt Gats, something Gats was unable to do, and then does 'mental math' to determine that he's mightier than Gats. He also has some of the best dialogue in the series.

 

[Doc_Subtlety]

I haven't gotten all that far, really. It's been a while, and the last thing I remember was Gatz fighting the Elf Queen.

I'll try to keep an open mind about him, though.

 

[WizarDru]

I haven't gotten all that far, really. It's been a while, and the last thing I remember was Gatz fighting the Elf Queen.

I'll try to keep an open mind about him, though.

Ah, the Valley of Lost Children stories. You haven't hit the really...umm, darker stuff, yet. I know it sounds odd to say that, but some truly dark stuff comes after that. Puck really helps keep some lightness in the story at that stage. So does the little thief kid, a 'bart' to Gats 'Kenshiro' (if you've followed much Hokuto no Ken).

 

[JoeGKushner]

So does anyone know if they plan on making a Berserk Anime OVA 2 or anything? I've hit a couple web sites and know that it's an ongoing Manga with lots of stuff. The Skull Knight does indeed sound fairly menancing in a cool way but to not see him in the series, especially towards the end, sounds weird.

The whole business with Caska also sounds pretty bad and sounds liek she isn't much of a character after the Black Sun over Midland part.

 

[WizarDru]

So does anyone know if they plan on making a Berserk Anime OVA 2 or anything? I've hit a couple web sites and know that it's an ongoing Manga with lots of stuff. The Skull Knight does indeed sound fairly menancing in a cool way but to not see him in the series, especially towards the end, sounds weird.

The whole business with Caska also sounds pretty bad and sounds liek she isn't much of a character after the Black Sun over Midland part.

I can only assume the lack of the Skull Knight was due to not wanting to confuse the issue more, when they knew the show was to end. However, that raises the bigger issue of why they didn't choose an alternate explanation for Gatsu's escape and transformation into the Black Swordsman, but who knows? The Skull Knight is one of the few beings in Beserk's world that can fight Nosferatru Zod to a standstill, let alone attempt to challenge the God Hand directly.

Well, Caska is, and is not, a character after the Black Sun event. She is not the Caska we knew, loved and respected. But she shows signs that she COULD become that Caska again. Scorch and I suspect that when they reach the elf-home, she will be healed there...or at least safe enough that they can leave her there, to set out on their own terms.

The problem is that whenever Caska gets mentally stable enough to begin some sort of healing process, something truly awful happens to help rekindle her madness, such as Gatsu's possession, the unholy cult or a certain strange being who continues to appear until he/she/it gets eaten (I'm trying to avoid spoilers, here).

Mind you, Gatsu has new allies now, so he is finally getting some damn sleep. Finally surrounded by beings not utterly consumed in fear and desperation, Gatsu may be able to stop his eventual slow slide into a Neischtzeain monster (of which he is both dually aware and unable to stop).

 

[JoeGKushner]

So I take it that even in the manga he's still kinda looking for what he is and at time's doesn't like it?

 

[Scorch]

Pretty much.

Gatsu, before the Black Sun, had a tendancy to be very rude or blunt in order to do nice things for people. Such as when he and Caska had to trek the wildnerness alone and she was about to collapse from exhaustion. He turns around and insults her for about five minutes and she gets so angry that he has to keep up with her when she gets up and continues walking.

Unfortunately this outside personality of his turns downright poisonous as the Black Swordsman. In the first few stories he slays an Apostle in front of his daughter's eyes. She, having just learned some horrible truths about how her father became an Apostle, is ready to kill herself so Gatsu starts taunting her to go ahead and do so. She becomes so angry that she instead swears that she will live and one day do in Gatsu. Gatsu turns away and the look on his face turns to absolute horror and what he had done. He had saved the girl's life but turned her into someone consumed with revenge. The only person who sees right through all this and understands what goes through Gatsu's mind is Puck who has some telepathic abilities.

Recently Gatsu has been having waking dreams of something called the Black Beast, a creature who claims to be his inner most desires. It is constantly taunting him to kill Caska since she is an anchor holding him down. I am convinced that this is the form Gatsu would become if he ever gave in and used the Blue Behelit he has been carrying around since Volume 1 of the manga to become an Apostle himself.

Scorch

 

[JoeGKushner]

A blue one eh? Why wouldn't he just get rid of it I'm wondering...

Watched Vol. 4 in the series today and that was some good stuff. It's funny to watch Guts push people away from him in an effort not to get too close to anyone.

 

[WizarDru]

A blue one eh? Why wouldn't he just get rid of it I'm wondering...

Watched Vol. 4 in the series today and that was some good stuff. It's funny to watch Guts push people away from him in an effort not to get too close to anyone.

Primarily, he's trying to figure out what to do with it, and if he can use it somehow. He's unable to destroy it physically, and left alone, they eventually find a way to turn up somewhere else and start havoc again. At least this way, he has it under his thumb, where it can do less damage.

The Skull Knight has his own solution to the problem, but I'm not sure if it's a better one.