Best Post-Gladiator Epic?

I have not seen all of these, but I've seen Alexander and I am here to advise you to run screaming in abject terror if anyone tries to show you this movie. If the film had broken in the theater, I would have cheered. It was so incredibly boring that I wanted to run screaming from the theater and would have if I hadn't come with others. This angst-fest was so awful I wanted to pluck my own eyes out. On a scale of 1 to 10, I rate this film NEGATIVE ELEVENTY BILLION.

Out of the ones you've listed, I'd probably have to say either Kingdom of Heaven or The Last Samurai is the best, though I've not seen Troy and I hold hope that one will be better than either of those two.
 

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concerning Alexander... is it so bad that even the battle scenes aren't worth it? What if I rented it and skimmed through the chapter selection and watched only the battle scenes? Would it be worth the $3-4$ then?
 

David Howery said:
concerning Alexander... is it so bad that even the battle scenes aren't worth it? What if I rented it and skimmed through the chapter selection and watched only the battle scenes? Would it be worth the $3-4$ then?
Perhaps, though there are only two battle scenes that I recall. There was Gaugamela and one of the battles with the Indians. I only thought Gaugamela was any good and it might be worth $3-4 bucks. You got a good sense of what was going on and it was a fairly exciting battle. IMHO, it was the only part of the movie worth watching. The battle in India was so chaotic and disjointed that I don't think it is worth spending money to see, though it's still better than the rest of the movie.
 

I personally hated Troy but that's probably because I've actually taken the time to bash my way through the Chapman translation of the Iliad. It would have been nice if the producers had done more than read the modern english coles notes and watched a BBC documentry on the seige.
 

I never saw Kingdom of Heaven, though I wanted to.
The Last Samurai was a good movie.
Troy was fun.
King Arthur and Alexander sucked. Alexander had a couple good fight scenes but ignored some of the most important and epic events in his life and added alot of pointless stuff.

So I'd say of the ones you listed Last Samurai was the most epic followed by Troy (which couldn've been more epic if they'd stayed true to the Illiad and had Gods and stuff).
 

I'll agree with above posters that from the choices available the Last Samurai, which I would rate over Gladiator IMO. However, if I was an expert in Japanese history (or if I was Japanese) I might feel differently.
 

johnsemlak said:
I'll agree with above posters that from the choices available the Last Samurai, which I would rate over Gladiator IMO. However, if I was an expert in Japanese history (or if I was Japanese) I might feel differently.
You're better off watching Taiga Drama Theater like we have on our local KIKU TV station. (Currently watching the series titled Yoshitsune about the clash between the Genji and the Heike.)

Then again, this coming from a country that exposed [mainland] Americans to dual-swordfighting samurai (via anime/manga) that led to the creation of the Complete Warrior version. :confused:

Sorry, but I will never stop bashing it. :p
 

I'll agree with above posters that from the choices available the Last Samurai, which I would rate over Gladiator IMO.

I never intend to suggest my list were the only possible options! If anyone cares to suggest any other epics, then please do!
 

Tonguez said:
Why a bit silly?

To me, the Trojan Horse seemed out of place in the type of story they were trying to tell. They tried to make everything as realistic as possible by removing Gods and magic, but then you have a 50 foot tall horse which was constructed totally in secret, containing an army of completely silent men. The Trojan Horse is such a larger than life, "mythic" element to me that it seemed odd in a "realistic" story.

Granted, there were other aspects of the film that strained creidiblity. Take the flaming "haystack" attack. How exactly did an enitre army of men dragging these things from the city to the beach go unnoticed? Especially, when we see that the city seems to be set in a huge, open plain.
 

Villano said:
To me, the Trojan Horse seemed out of place in the type of story they were trying to tell. They tried to make everything as realistic as possible by removing Gods and magic, but then you have a 50 foot tall horse which was constructed totally in secret, containing an army of completely silent men. The Trojan Horse is such a larger than life, "mythic" element to me that it seemed odd in a "realistic" story.
So, what do you really think did happened?
 

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