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[IceBear]

I point to page 140 of Magic of Faerun. It says that Screaming weapons do work in Silence spells.

So, are you telling me that a sonic spell doesn't work, BUT an energy type weapon Does?

Well, if that's the case then I guess that's how it works, but it doesn't make sense.

If silence spells just keep you from hearing stuff then I don't see why it stops you from casting spells 100% of the time, when deafness only stops you 20% of the time.

IceBear

 

[Magic Rub]

I point to page 140 of Magic of Faerun. It says that Screaming weapons do work in Silence spells.

So, are you telling me that a sonic spell doesn't work, BUT an energy type weapon Does?

I'm not telling you anything about that weapon. I'm just explaining the silience spell. If that weapon works dispite the Silence spell, then cool, such are the rules.

 

[Xarlen]

If silence spells just keep you from hearing stuff then I don't see why it stops you from casting spells 100% of the time, when deafness only stops you 20% of the time.

That I Can't answer. You have a point, but there's no clarification in the rules.

At this point, I'm going to tag Kreynolds.

 

[Xarlen]

All I'm saying is I don't see any point why the energy off a Weapon works, but the energy from a Spell (The Same energy type) does not work.

 

[IceBear]

I just see the MoF entry as being incorrect as it's not a core book and it just doesn't make logical sense.

IceBear

 

[Magic Rub]

The weapon is an oddity to be sure. How it works is beyond me, but it does, the text is cut & dry making it an exception to the rule. The spell description is also clear in regards to sonic damage.

This spell provides a defense against sonic or language-based attacks

 

[Xarlen]

I just see the MoF entry as being incorrect as it's not a core book and it just doesn't make logical sense.

Neither are the splatbooks, but they represent the 'Core' in the sense that WotC puts them out, and supports them. Splatbooks reprent feats, put errata, clarifications, etc, which is how things work. The FR stuff is the same way that, the same people work on it (Sans Monte, of course), WotC endorses it, so why isn't it accepted as rules?

 

[IceBear]

You're misunderstanding me

I'm not saying they aren't rules, but they didn't get the same amount of treatment as the core books did and thus they are more suspect to errors, that's all I meant.

There are things in the PHB and DMG that haven't been errata'ed yet so I suspect that MoF is even a lower priority.

If push came to shove, I would have to go with the MoF statement (as it is a black and white statement), but I am of the opinion that a silence spell actually stops the sound wave and thus I find it easier to take the MoF entry as a mistake than to accept it as otherwise when the Silence spell implies it would stop sonic damage.

Whether you can hear or not doesn't affect sonic damage, in my opinion. Since Silence is like Invisibility (basing this on Sean's rant) I wouldn't think that it works by preventing people from hearing things but rather by surpressing the sound waves.

IceBear

 

[Magic Rub]

Ice bear you took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[the Jester]

Silence is an illusion in 3e, keep that in mind when talking about it "stopping" anything.