Bluff Check, Feinting in Combat, and Rogues

[kreynolds]

depending on feats, no

He didn't ask about feats. He asked about the rule, and the rule is one AoO per opponent per round. But since you are so inclined, why don't you go ahead and list those feats for us?

 

[Al]

well, take everyone else opinion on what i said, or the majority anyhow.

Which is...? I presume that your original objection to feinting being too easy was it meant that a rogue had a fair chance in a toe-to-toe with a fighter (or indeed, in any one-to-one combat with a fighter).

Incidentally, you're incorrect about AoOs. Combat Reflexes permits more AoOs, but you can still only make one per opponent.

 

[Weeble]

Which is...? I presume that your original objection to feinting being too easy was it meant that a rogue had a fair chance in a toe-to-toe with a fighter (or indeed, in any one-to-one combat with a fighter).

Incidentally, you're incorrect about AoOs. Combat Reflexes permits more AoOs, but you can still only make one per opponent.

I didn't originally have an objection to feinting, i didn't say a rogue could go toe-to-toe with a fighter, and i didn't say anyone could get an AoO more than once on one opponent.

 

[Weeble]

He didn't ask about feats. He asked about the rule, and the rule is one AoO per opponent per round. But since you are so inclined, why don't you go ahead and list those feats for us?

ok, somewhere in the PHB between pages 1 and 200 i think

 

[kreynolds]

ok, somewhere in the PHB between pages 1 and 200 i think

That's what I thought. Thanks for pointless post.

 

[Darkness]

Edit: I originally messed this post up, making it quite misleading, but I fixed that now.

depending on feats, no

The Combat Reflexes feat allows you to make more than AoO per round (but still not more than one against any given opponent). But only if your Dex modifier has to be at least +1.

He didn't ask about feats. He asked about the rule, and the rule is one AoO per opponent per round. But since you are so inclined, why don't you go ahead and list those feats for us?

(Addressing both posts quoted above: ) As far as I can recall, that's the only feat in WotC-published books that affects AoOs in such a way.


- Darkness

 

[kreynolds]

The Combat Reflexes feat allows you to make more than AoO per round (but still not more than one against any given opponent).
edit: Potentially, that is; your Dex modifier has to be at least +1.

The Combat Reflexes feat was never in contention. It was already established that you can't make more than one AoO per opponent per round. However, someone else seemed to suggest that there are feats that allow you to do so, but I'm not aware of them off the top of my head, and that person has yet to list them.

So, the question of whether or not there are feats that allow you to make more than one AoO per opponent per round is still in question. The rule is still one AoO per opponent per round, and Combat Reflexes is not a feat that allows you to get around this limit, which Al already pointed out.

I could swear I saw a feat that allowed more than one AoO per opponent per round, but I can't remember where it was. Maybe in the Q. Fighter? I'll see if I can find it.

 

[Darkness]

D'oh! I seem to have pasted the second quote over the first one, making that one vanish. I've edited the post now to correct that, and also added some further clarifications.

 

[kreynolds]

D'oh! I seem to have pasted the second quote over the first one, making that one vanish. I've edited the post now to correct that, and also added some further clarifications.

It's cool. I checked Q. Fighter, but I didn't see the feat in there. I'm just about 100% sure that is wasn't a WotC feat anyways, but I'm just curious now.

 

[Weeble]

That's what I thought. Thanks for pointless post.

i didn't notice he meant the same opponent before, but thanks for your typical rude reply, junvenile.