Brave New Planes OOC

[Endur]

I didn't know you could develop ELH spells for free.

A couple of Epic spells for your review.
Awareness
Apoteosis

 

[Serpenteye]

I didn't know you could develop ELH spells for free.

The cost is derived from the spellcraft DC of the spell. If the DC is 0 the cost is 0.

 

[Serpenteye]

In post #103 Paxus allowed me to gain followers of PC-classes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpenteye
Is it ok to make all Sandorel's followers clerics of his religion and have them live gathered in a small monastery in the outlands? I'm considering befriending a Sorcerer or Wizard for a cohort, what would that require? The nature of a pbp-game makes it unpractical to go around chatting with a lot of strangers, and I wouldn't want to take too much time away from the rest of the party.

Yes, but "small monastery" is a euphemism for "a collection of cottages and a few gardens." Anything fancier would take some cash of your own to build (though the Landlord feat would give you a pretty penny to work with at your level).

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[Paxus Asclepius]

It is Paxus call, but I'm not sure that sidebar is valid in 3.5. I think the re-release of the ELH will eliminate it. (For instance, Dragons have to be old, which means 24 or so hit dice mininum to have epic feats in 3.5, even though their ECL is somewhere around 40 when they are Old).

That's inconsistent. The consistent rule is that epic requires 21+ hit dice, so that is what I will use.

 

[Wrahn]

Do you worship your boss at work, Wrahn?

Depends on how you look at it. Is your God your Boss?

 

[Wrahn]

That's inconsistent. The consistent rule is that epic requires 21+ hit dice, so that is what I will use.

This is the first line of the 3.5 SRD Epic rules:

Regardless of the method used to attain 21st level, once a character reaches that point he or she is considered an epic character.

In essense Endur you are incorrect. The sidebar rules from ELH pg 25 stand in 3.5. Monster are treated inconsistently all over the place where epic rules are concerned, for instance, they get normal BAB progression beyond 20 HD and Normal save progression too. Inconsistent? Yes. Standard through out the rules? Yes again. Essentially they are saying PCs are different.

Not trying to play rules lawyer here and will accept whatever ruling you make Paxus, just trying to get you all the information I have.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

This is the first line of the 3.5 SRD Epic rules:


In essense Endur you are incorrect. The sidebar rules from ELH pg 25 stand in 3.5. Monster are treated inconsistently all over the place where epic rules are concerned, for instance, they get normal BAB progression beyond 20 HD and Normal save progression too. Inconsistent? Yes. Standard through out the rules? Yes again. Essentially they are saying PCs are different.

Not trying to play rules lawyer here and will accept whatever ruling you make Paxus, just trying to get you all the information I have.

I base my decision on the way in which feats are handled. Everyone who gets feats gets them at every third HD, not every third ECL. Therefore, it seems that epic access to feats should also be based on HD. As BAB, saves, etc only derive from hit dice, epic usages of those should only come from HD. Monsters may be inconsistent, but PCs shouldn't be.

 

[Wrahn]

I am home now and the Optional rule is on pg 37 of the ELH, basically if your follower is not an Expert, Warrior, or Commoner then it is considered 2 levels higher than it's actual level, if it has PC class levels it is considere 3 levels higher and if they have levels in a prestige class it is considered 5 levels higher.

 

[Wrahn]

I base my decision on the way in which feats are handled. Everyone who gets feats gets them at every third HD, not every third ECL. Therefore, it seems that epic access to feats should also be based on HD. As BAB, saves, etc only derive from hit dice, epic usages of those should only come from HD. Monsters may be inconsistent, but PCs shouldn't be.

So is your character level equal to your ECL + HD/Class Levels or is just equal to HD/Class levels?

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I base my decision on the way in which feats are handled. Everyone who gets feats gets them at every third HD, not every third ECL. Therefore, it seems that epic access to feats should also be based on HD.

All this works for me as I said I didn't consider Brystasia epic at all, or at least not yet. My ECL isn't high enough to really warrant any spells rules. With an LA of +2 my ECL will never breach 21 or higher when you can gain a feat. It would need to be a LA +3.