Brave New Planes OOC

[Brother Shatterstone]

Sandorel is prepared to shop around quite a bit to find what he wants, for a reasonable price. If he can't find it for sale in Waterdeep then maybe some of it can be found in Sigil or Dis, or the city of Brass, or in one of the other great planar metropolises.

You forgot to mention Skullport.

There are several spells which use character level (like Divine Power). The sidebar rule in the ELH was very clear that your character level was equal to your ECL + Class/Hit Dice, but if you aren't using that I guess I am still at a loss in your explaination, what character level is.

Let me try to help. Brystasia is a 19th level character, she doesn't have her ability bonus for level 20 nor does she have the max level skill for that level. Everything she is and everything that she does is based upon that level 19.

For her to make 20th level she needs to gain enough experience for a normal character to make level 22. (She has a LA of +2)

If you explained why, he might.

Of course, Brystasia isn't going to try and grapple it away from your nor would she try to steal it from you.

As far as he is concerned, he interprets the previous priest of smith's words as meaning that the sword's substance fell from the heavens (i.e. its not from around here) and that's why none of the smiths had ever seen the strange color of the metal before.

Very true but Conan is going to be in for a shock when Brystaisa new blade has the same coloring. Since Brystaisa commioned the sword with this metal I suspect she would know something about it or at least know someone who would. (Master Tundraleaf)

Conan would be more interested in finding out stories about the previous wielder of the blade and the smith that made it.

If we found out more its properties it might happen but no guarantees.

Not sure. Probably the next day or two. I'm assuming we're spending at least a week in Waterdeep.

So he brought Brystasia something else? As for how long we are going to be in Waterdeep, it sort of depends. Commissioning of items takes time, but I would rather go somewhere while they are being commissioned. You did hear rumors of Undermountain. Maybe you should make a suggestion to Brystasia about going there. I'm sure it's halls might contain a treasure or too.

 

[Dalamar]

Level= your levels in a single class (and technically, if you have monstrous HD, you have that many levels in the approriate race). This is used to determine determine abilities of the class.
Character Level= The total sum of your levels in all classes and monstrous HD, used to determine your maximum rank for skills, and when you gain feats and ability increases.
Level Adjustment (LA)= a modifier that shows how much more powerful a creature is than it monstrous HD (or Character Level, in case of a creature that has levels in other classes in addition to monstrous HD) would otherwise indicate.
Equivalent Character Level (ECL)= The sum of your Character Level and Level Adjustment, used to determine how much experience you need to go up a level and how much wealth you should have (this is the number that should be equal for all characters in a party so that the party is 'balanced'). For standard PHB races, this is equal to their Character Level.

Edit - These are, to my knowledge, the official terms as of now.

 

[Serpenteye]

You forgot to mention Skullport.

A few Holy Words, a Fire Storm or two and an Earthquake if I feel like being particularly brutal... I doubt Skullport could put up any serious resistance to a fully buffed Sandorel.
It's really too bad that he's too Good to murder hundreds of people out of mere greed.

 

[Wrahn]

Thanks guys, for the help.

Everyone runs their games slightly differently, it is a matter of adapting to the rules of the particular DM as I am attempting to do with Paxus.

Officially, the rules tend to be murky when it comes to ECL and how it effects character level, except in one place, the Sidebar rule in the Epic Level Handbook, which unequivocally states the follow:

Character Level = ECL + Hit Dice + Class Levels

You use Hit Dice + Class Level to determine when you get feats and stats upgrades.

I have found no where else in the rules that states this or specifically contradicts it either, some indicate it by presumption, but it can usually be interpretted another way (such as the 3.5 Epic rules SRD first line).

So I believe Paxus is reintpreting the rules (which is fine and his perogative) I am just looking for clarification from him about how he is doing it.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

Thanks guys, for the help.

Everyone runs their games slightly differently, it is a matter of adapting to the rules of the particular DM as I am attempting to do with Paxus.

Officially, the rules tend to be murky when it comes to ECL and how it effects character level, except in one place, the Sidebar rule in the Epic Level Handbook, which unequivocally states the follow:

Character Level = ECL + Hit Dice + Class Levels

You use Hit Dice + Class Level to determine when you get feats and stats upgrades.

I have found no where else in the rules that states this or specifically contradicts it either, some indicate it by presumption, but it can usually be interpretted another way (such as the 3.5 Epic rules SRD first line).

So I believe Paxus is reintpreting the rules (which is fine and his perogative) I am just looking for clarification from him about how he is doing it.

The hit die rule is more consistent with most features; it is, however, a problem with play balance, as epic features are specifically design to allow balance at epic levels of play, not at 21+ HD. Therefore, I think I will rule that epic BAB, epic saves, and access to epic feats begins at ECL 21.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Character Level = ECL + Hit Dice + Class Levels

Sweet! Brystaisa a level 40 character!

CL= 21 + 0 + 19

I think you meant LA instead of ECL.

The hit die rule is more consistent with most features; it is, however, a problem with play balance, as epic features are specifically design to allow balance at epic levels of play, not at 21+ HD. Therefore, I think I will rule that epic BAB, epic saves, and access to epic feats begins at ECL 21.

We I do agree that LA becoming more punishing at higher levels so the rule does make sense. WoTC has realized that and made this ruling for epic levels but personally I would rather see our LA lowered over time and not simply the end of punishment at Epic Level.

I'll remove the Divine Champion additions and redo everything for last level using the epic progression.

 

[Serpenteye]

New and improved

Awareness
Seed: Fortify
Casting Time: 11 minutes.
Effect: +46 enhancement bonus to Wisdom for 180 hours

DC: 17+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+90 = 123

Mitigating Factors: Casting time of 11 minutes: -20, 88 casters contributing 1level slots: -88, 5 casters contributing 2level slots: -15. Sum Mitigating: 123.

DC: 0. Cost: 0 gp, 0 xp. Time to develop: 0 days.


Apotheosis
Seed: Fortify
Casting Time: 10 minutes.
Effect: +46 enhancement bonus to Charisma for 180 hours

DC: 17+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+90 = 123

Mitigating Factors: Casting time of 11 minutes: -20, 88 casters contributing 1level slots: -88, 5 casters contributing 2level slots: -15. Sum Mitigating: 123.

DC: 0. Cost: 0 gp, 0 xp. Time to develop: 0 days.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

A few Holy Words, a Fire Storm or two and an Earthquake if I feel like being particularly brutal... I doubt Skullport could put up any serious resistance to a fully buffed Sandorel.

No it couldn't but are old shopping grounds could be fun again.

It's really too bad that he's too Good to murder hundreds of people out of mere greed.

No, that’s a good quality their.

You'll have to show Brystasia how to cast that enchantment to charisma spell when and if she ever qualifies for it.

 

[Dalamar]

Damn, I want one of those spells for Dexterity. +20 to attack, Init, AC, Ref, some skills... Yummy

 

[Serpenteye]

Damn, I want one of those spells for Dexterity. +20 to attack, Init, AC, Ref, some skills... Yummy

This is just the beginning...

(hint: the Summon Seed)