Brave New Planes OOC

[Velenne]

Looks A-ok to me!

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Looks A-ok to me!

Honestly I'm glad to hear that. Did you need to post anything IC before I press on?

 

[Endur]

<please read all of this before reacting>

IC: Conan would not agree to what you are proposing. Conan does not believe in being in debt unless there is no other alternative.

OOC: I think the system you have proposed is as fair as any system I have seen anyone propose, so I have no OOC objections.

I will point out that it was my original plan to use my gold share to buy presents for Brystasia and to hire and equip an army of mercenaries with my share of the gold (after the sword and bracers). So its not like any of the gold coins was likely to find its way into my character wealth, since I don't believe in buying magic items.

On the other hand, its extremely useful for the sword to fall into Conan's hands, as the powerful intelligent sword is a subtle plot hook (Grazz't anyone?).

I propose the following alternative system, which is what Conan would have proposed IC (and which can work just like Brother Shatterstone's OOC system would work).

1) All coins (hard currency) are split up evenly amongst party members (i.e. 1/5 each);
2) Other items are split up as mutually agreed (i.e. Conan got the sword and bracers, Brstasia got the artwork, others got various items. Brystasia then sold her artwork and gave large amounts of the proceeds to various members of the party).

This would be the system that would make sense to Conan. He may not know whether or not an antique vase is worth anything, but he can count coins just as well as Sandorel can.

And, since we're defining that items are split up as mutually agreed, then we can implicitly use Brother Shatterstone's ley idea, to incorporate balance on a long term approach.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

<please read all of this before reacting>

Always my man.

IC: Conan would not agree to what you are proposing. Conan does not believe in being in debt unless there is no other alternative.

Well IC, I doubt Brystasia would ever agree to this either... She is after all a Sunite and not very good with money.

OOC: I think the system you have proposed is as fair as any system I have seen anyone propose, so I have no OOC objections.

This is the reason for doing it OOC. We can force the fairness of the system and keep the balance that we need that are characters would overlook. If Conan needed more money Brystasia would over look it with a smile. If Sandorel needed the money she might frown as she wonders why but she would, more than likely, still over look it with a smile.

I will point out that it was my original plan to use my gold share to buy presents for Brystasia and to hire and equip an army of mercenaries with my share of the gold (after the sword and bracers). So its not like any of the gold coins was likely to find its way into my character wealth, since I don't believe in buying magic items.

Trust me I know, I'm not sure if Brystasia would be comfortable traveling around with a small army of mercenaries. It could imply Sune going to war and besides they would probably try and treat her like less than the lady that she is.

On the other hand, its extremely useful for the sword to fall into Conan's hands, as the powerful intelligent sword is a subtle plot hook (Grazz't anyone?).

I've never regretted Conan getting the sword, the bracers or the money they where the right items for Conan to have and Neither Brystasia, or I, would want to see a partner gong into combat unprepared and unequipped. It places you in danger and it places her in danger. Brystasia might feel like she is capable of protecting herself in combat but I know better.

The system is just their for balance and I except their will be times when it doesn't work cause an item that makes sense in Sandorel’s hands is more than he can afford and I be shocked if it wasn't handled like the complete adults we are.

I propose the following alternative system, which is what Conan would have proposed IC (and which can work just like Brother Shatterstone's OOC system would work).

1) All coins (hard currency) are split up evenly amongst party members (i.e. 1/5 each);
2) Other items are split up as mutually agreed (i.e. Conan got the sword and bracers, Brstasia got the artwork, others got various items. Brystasia then sold her artwork and gave large amounts of the proceeds to various members of the party).

Well with signature items all magical items are worth coins and there really is no OOC way around this. We didn't want to shop in places like Union and I know Brystasia has no desire to get old before her time while waiting for high end commissions to be done.

This would be the system that would make sense to Conan. He may not know whether or not an antique vase is worth anything, but he can count coins just as well as Sandorel can.

And, since we're defining that items are split up as mutually agreed, then we can implicitly use Brother Shatterstone's ley idea, to incorporate balance on a long term approach.

If we did the above, we are looking at allot more paper work and we are looking at allot more time spent IC/OOC deciding everything.

I can spend 20 minutes with a prospective loot and be done with the loot. I'm all for simplicity.

 

[Velenne]

Velenne, is the weapon on the screen something she would recognize? A sword? An axe? Obviously, it would be alien in appearance but if she recognizes the base weapon it might help her, and me out.

The weapon is a glaive, which I took to be the closest adaptation to the Predator's "Combistick". The information on the screen essentially describes this:

Antillis, in his own special way I'll work out IC soon, will request the following item be commissioned during their downtime:

Hunter's Vengeance - +2 Vicious, Keen, Large, Cold Iron Guisarme of Evil Outsider Bane

(9 * 2) * 2 = 36 gp for Large and Cold Iron
+300 gp for Masterwork
+2000 gp to enchant Cold Iron
+50,000 gp of enchantments
=52,336 gp

He should have 67,003 gp left after upgrading his armor, leaving him ultimately with 14,667 gp (or 1,466 pp as he prefers to carry it) to spare. If we end up with an extra 6k apiece, I'll just have to pick up a Ring of Invisibility to finish out the build.

Damage: 2d6+2+2d6+STR*1.5 (19-20/x3)
--+2/+2d6+2 vs. Evil Outsiders

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

The weapon is a glaive, which I took to be the closest adaptation to the Predator's "Combistick".

Oh okay, my knowledge in predators is lacking cause I've always liked aliens better.

That she could and would be able to get done in Waterdeep.

Very spooky moment btw.

You didn't dismiss yourself so I figure you weren’t done so I'll await your next post but will edit that she can get indeed get it done.

POST EDITED.

 

[Endur]

Actually, you didn't understand me. We're still using your system, its just that your system is best used OOC. And we can use my system IC. I don't see any need for any additional paperwork or more time.

If we did the above, we are looking at allot more paper work and we are looking at allot more time spent IC/OOC deciding everything.

I can spend 20 minutes with a prospective loot and be done with the loot. I'm all for simplicity.

 

[Endur]

The 3.5 version of Persistent metamagic feat is +6. Players Guide to Faerun.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Actually, you didn't understand me. We're still using your system, its just that your system is best used OOC. And we can use my system IC. I don't see any need for any additional paperwork or more time.

That's will be fine then as long as you realize the treasure will not be broken up IC in till it has been done OOC
:shrugs:

Then again ask serpenteye as I suspect all of this will be his issue, and the treasure will be divided up as he sees fit, as Brystasia simply can’t compete and has no role now…

*Goes and looks for pom poms*

 

[Serpenteye]

Then again ask serpenteye as I suspect all of this will be his issue, and the treasure will be divided up as he sees fit, as Brystasia simply can’t compete and has no role now…

*Goes and looks for pom poms*

It's not going to be like that, I suspect. Sandorel considers the party and their adventures more like a passtime, at least at this stage. He's not as committed to the party as Brystasia is and will likely be content to let her run things as long as it doesn't interfere with his plans too much.
Ooc our character's charisma mean little and I'm not going to be able to impose my will on the rest of you anyway.