BtVS Spoilers 11/19/02

N Hammer · Nov 20, 2002

Good episode...

My first thought when the show ended was "boy I can't wait for next week to watch Giles beat the ship out of the guy with the axe".

Giles Rules!

kreynolds · Nov 21, 2002

Well, I finally got to watch this episode, and I gotta say that it was very nicely executed.

Spike's turmoil, though far less than Angel's decades long suffering, is still interesting to watch. Compared to Angel though, his suffering is pretty trivialized. By the same token though, we've never really gotten a good long look at what Angel was like for those many years. The tightest picture they've shown of the good natured vampire's suffering was not long after he got his soul back (he attacked a group of men and a woman, tried to drain the women, but couldn't bring himself to do it), then it jumps all the way up until he meets the enigmatic Whistler (funny connect with the name to another slick vampire flick there

).

I enjoyed watching Dawn's inner turmoil. She seemed to believe Buffy, but at the same time, you can tell she truly wants to believe that what she saw really was her mother.

Anya and Xander...well, they're still just zany sidekicks. Nothing more there. Although, in regards to the Xander and his nice suits and buisness meetings, I'm pretty sure its nothing more than him growing up. Joss is pretty good about that.

Now, there is one thing that's getting me about this whole killing of the potential slayers thing. First of all, who are the current slayers? Buffy and Faith, of course. What happens when either one dies? A new one takes their place, so if you kill all the candidates, only one slayer left (either Buffy or Faith, whichever doesn't get the axe). The interesting part is that its obvious nobody knows who exactly the next slayer will be, which is precisely why they're killing all of them.

But, here's the kicker. The future of BtVS is uncertain, but info has been circulating that Joss is thinking about keeping the overall story alive. With that taken into account, what better way to keep the show going? What if one of the potential slayers is none other...

...than Dawn?

Damn, I love this show.

Hand of Evil · Nov 21, 2002

kreynolds said:
Now, there is one thing that's getting me about this whole killing of the potential slayers thing. First of all, who are the current slayers? Buffy and Faith, of course. What happens when either one dies? A new one takes their place, so if you kill all the candidates, only one slayer left (either Buffy or Dawn, whichever doesn't get the axe). The interesting part is that its obvious nobody knows who exactly the next slayer will be, which is precisely why they're killing all of them.

This has been said before, Buffy's death will not activate another slayer. Faith's death will.

I see an evil watcher that has corrupted a 'slayer-in-waiting', much like what was done to Faith by Mz. Post (was that her name), possibly some form of spell that takes the 'slayer line' and captures it as it is activated. Now, I would not be surpised to see the bad watcher the head of the watchers that has been on the show a few times now!

John Crichton · Nov 21, 2002

Hand of Evil said:
This has been said before, Buffy's death will not activate another slayer. Faith's death will.

Took the words right outta my mouth.

Good episode altho it was a bit skimpy with the humor (Anya's "seduction" and Aimee Man's off-stage comments taking the cake). I like how we really have no idea what the "Big Bad" is for this season. I think it's cool how whatever it is thinks that Spike is a threat and it playing on his current weakness. I'm also surprised that the Buffy/Spike thing hasn't gone all cheezy yet. The writers are handling it well.

shadoe · Nov 21, 2002

Giles could be dead, and the big bad could end up using his body like it has used Glory, Spike, etc. Not necessarily likely, but still a possibility.

KnowTheToe · Nov 21, 2002

If they did kill Giles it would be the lamest character death ever. You can't just sneak up on a main character and kill him with a single blow. Only George RR Martin can pull that off. If Giles was going to die you would want to milk it for all it is worth and that was not done.

Pielorinho · Nov 21, 2002

KnowTheToe said:
If they did kill Giles it would be the lamest character death ever. You can't just sneak up on a main character and kill him with a single blow. Only George RR Martin can pull that off. If Giles was going to die you would want to milk it for all it is worth and that was not done.

I read a nasty theory on another board: it'd be just like Joss to not show Giles at all for the next several episodes, leave the cliffhanger hangin'. When Giles finally shows up, he shows up in Sunnydale with no explanation of how that battle ended, leaving us fans unsure whether it's Giles, or the Big Bad impersonating Giles, or something even more sinister.

Daniel

Crothian · Nov 21, 2002

Pielorinho said:
I read a nasty theory on another board: it'd be just like Joss to not show Giles at all for the next several episodes, leave the cliffhanger hangin'. When Giles finally shows up, he shows up in Sunnydale with no explanation of how that battle ended, leaving us fans unsure whether it's Giles, or the Big Bad impersonating Giles, or something even more sinister.

Daniel

Nice idea, but don't the previews of next weeks show include Giles?