Buckler plus 2h-weapon

[jasin]

I don't have a problem with 2HF with Bucklers until Imp Buckler Defense comes into play. Then it's a problem.

Why?

You can get a buckler +3 for 9,000 gp, so with Imp. Buckler Defense, that's +4 AC for -1 to attacks.

You could get an animated heavy shield +1 for 9,000, so that's +3 to AC. Take Combat Expertise instead of IBD, and that could be +4/-1. Or you could just go with +3/+0 and spend the feat elsewhere.

IMO, more people buy animated shields than take Improved Buckler Defense.

Of course, you could very well say that animated shields are also a problem...

 

[hong]

Of course, you could very well say that animated shields are also a problem...

Yes.

 

[Ogrork the Mighty]

But what if you have three hands/arms!!! Ah-ha! Gotcha!

 

[drdevoid]

Why?

You can get a buckler +3 for 9,000 gp, so with Imp. Buckler Defense, that's +4 AC for -1 to attacks.

You could get an animated heavy shield +1 for 9,000, so that's +3 to AC. Take Combat Expertise instead of IBD, and that could be +4/-1. Or you could just go with +3/+0 and spend the feat elsewhere.

IMO, more people buy animated shields than take Improved Buckler Defense.

Of course, you could very well say that animated shields are also a problem...

It's just too good for non-existent entry requirements- I've seen it in play and thought it went too far. I was the player in fact. 2HF should have some drawback. Each fighting style should have it's niche and this infringes too much on the sword and boarder.

 

[Darklone]

Right. No animated bucklers here. Neither. Whatever.

And about the realismthing: I don't mind, D&D is fun... yet I never understood why they made a buckler (that was supposed to be used for shieldbashes) with which you cannot bash and a heavy shield ... with which shield bashes aren't that funny... ah well. Gimme trolls.

 

[hong]

And about the realismthing:

You Germans and your wacky compoundnouns!

 

[Darklone]

You Germans and your wacky compoundnouns!

Catnipples?

 

[saucercrab]

Just an FYI, in the latest issue of Dragon (#357), the Sage answers this question. Does the feat apply to wielding a two-handed weapon? His words: "Not according to a strict reading of the feat's description."

Thank gawd the Sage is only reading the feat description, & not the write-up of the item the feat was designed for. Wait... what?