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Buffy 14 April 03

WizarDru said:
Mind you, this leaves a major hole in the question of why the Watchers (well, Giles at least) never mentioned that the Slayer is woefully weaker than before...but there are lots of ways this could be resolved. Or, perhaps Caleb somehow managed to get some of the slayer's power during one of Buffy's deaths. Have we ever established why Buffy came back 'wrong'? I don't recall what, if any, resolution occured with that. Could this be tied up in that?
As for Buffy coming back 'wrong,' Tara said no to that with her spell. It was when Buffy found out that chipified Spike could hurt her. Tara said it was something akin to a tan or something like that and it was confusing the chip. But it was still same old Buffy, according to Tara.
 

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IceBear said:
I've read the spoilers for the upcoming episodes (I'm just too impatient) and there is a method to his madness.

IceBear


... so where would one find these spoilers ... not that I'm looking or anything ... nooooooo not me!
 

DanMcS said:


Mildly crazy? The man's a serial killer. Has been for a long time, apparently, much longer than he's been working with the Bringers and the First. He's E V I L, man! And excellent at it. He's already blown right by the Mayor in my estimation, and is verging on Angelus-like levels of Big Bad-ness.

Yup, he's a super strength serial killer. That just doesn't seem like much... flavor I guess... to me that is.

And, Angelus slew families to drive people crazy, he had energy! :)

Also, a friend pointed out, Caleb is the perfect villain to end the series with. The show has something of a misogynist tone to it at times. Xander is by no means a strong male character, Giles was the fatherly type and the closest they had going. (Angel was cursed, Spike has gone all wussy since getting souled, an tried to rape her before that. Oz was a decent one, but werewolfed, and even attacked Tara and went off with a female werewolf...)

I just expected different Caleb-ness I suppose, but I didn't feel like there was enough to the scene to make him a worthy villain. Tossing the stabbed girl out of the truck just didn't seem, um, Evil enough for me I guess.

The whole "tell her I have something of hers" thing was just silly to me. I'm happy that the Buffette's finally DID something, but they knew it was a trap the whole way, discussed it being a trap, and there plan was "we walk in, if we scream come fight"?
ah well.
 

So, notice Faith knew about Dawn as Buffy's sister, even though she had been in jail for a year or so before dawn appeared. The monks were thorough.

"Are you the bad slayer now? Am I the good slayer now?" I wish this show weren't ending. Hah.
 

Merlion said:
saying that someone "sees" in a fantasy context can be a pretty big deal...especialy when you follow it by trying to blind them. Perhaps Xander isnt as ordinary as we think....

Well, think about the injury just inflicted upon Xander. Now, let us think about mythology. Specifically Norse mythology....
 

The trouble with these optimistic takes on Xander's injury is that the preacher certainly meant for the wound to reduce his vision, literally or figuratively. I do hope something good will come of it, though.

DanMcS - I presume you meant the monks who 'created' Dawn? They were supposed to have changed the whole world so that Dawn had always been there, so I wasn't surprised when Dawn recognized Faith.
 

Thats what I meant. I wonder if Xander doesnt already have some sort of special vision, and Caleb was trying to take it away
 

Wolf72 said:



... so where would one find these spoilers ... not that I'm looking or anything ... nooooooo not me!

Just do a google search for Buffy spoilers and you'll find lots :) I don't want to post links in case someone experiencing a moment of weak will clicks on it.

IceBear
 

Merlion said:
Thats what I meant. I wonder if Xander doesnt already have some sort of special vision, and Caleb was trying to take it away

Xander has always seen the big picture, his place in it as well as everyone elses. He has used it to help everyone and show them the way from their fears and short comings.

I just wonder if Caleb was too late, Xander's speech while before combat could give heart to Buffy later.
 

I thought it was a great episode. I had seen the spoilers about Fillion appearing on Buffy (which sucks, people can be inconsiderate about these things), but I didn't realize he was going to show up so soon. I thought he was great on FF, but I wondered if he would be any good on anything else. Well, he is. I thought he brought a heck of a presence to the screen. Shame he's coing in so late in the season. I thought my woman was going to explode when she realized that he and Spike were on the same show, let alone when they shared the screen. Thought I might have to leave the room. this ep is just another one that convinces me that Buffy is still trumping Angel this season, and I'm looking forward to the next new one.
 

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