Call of Cthulhu- which version should I buy?

[psychic mind flayer]

HOwever, d20 does have the advantage that you can modify how hard it is to do something.

 

[Kanegrundar]

In the d20 version, with leveling up and all that, it just becomes too much like D&D in that you become self-centered and stop caring about saving the world and start being too selfish. Don't get me wrong, i love D&D, but still, i like BRP better, because, as it has been said, by four adventures, you're either dead or insane, and that's closer to Lovecraft's stories htan just becoming omnipowerful and indestructible.

I have never seen a D20 CoC character come anywhere close to being "omnipowerful and indestructable." The D20 system used in CoCD20 honestly won't allow that, especially if you're comparing CoC characters to D&D characters of the same level (or D20 Modern character of the same level for that matter). CoC D20 characters simply don't get that powerful and if a GM is adjucating the insanity rules correctly, there's little chance of the character not becoming insane NPC's by the time they reach 5th - 6th level. This sounds like you haven't really played the game.

As for CoC characters becoming self-centered, chances are they will. Not because of leveling, but because they won't trust anyone around them. That all lies in the hands of the right players and Gm that knows how to run a Cthulhuesque game properly. If the game is ran like Lovercraft D&D, then that is likely to happen, but that's not the fault of the system.

Kane

 

[psychic mind flayer]

I have only played d20 twice, so your'e right, I don't know a lot. However, are there epic levels? Caus ei f there are, then I am correct, and you can become omnipowerful. If not, ignore me.

 

[Kanegrundar]

I have only played d20 twice, so your'e right, I don't know a lot. However, are there epic levels? Caus ei f there are, then I am correct, and you can become omnipowerful. If not, ignore me.

Not in CoC D20. I guess you could try and develop epic rules for it, but since no character would last that long there would be no point. Just because D&D has epic rules and CoC D20 shares a common system mechanic doesn't mean that there are epic rules for CoC.

Kane

 

[psychic mind flayer]

Oh, okay, then ignore me.

*ashamed of himself*

 

[KaosDevice]

I think JD was referring to the overwhelming advantage of positive traits the d20 version had over the BRP version (i.e. colour, hardback, better art),

I would like to point out the casual use of 'overwhelming advantage' and the lack of discourse to show that this conversation is pretty much at an end. Who could POSSIBLY argue against those advantages or care for poor, retarded BRP?

It is this sort of knee jerk denigration that gets all of us fighting mad. You know BRP could molest baby sheep and statements like that would make me be it's biggest supporter.

 

[King of Old School]

I would like to point out the casual use of 'overwhelming advantage' and the lack of discourse to show that this conversation is pretty much at an end. Who could POSSIBLY argue against those advantages or care for poor, retarded BRP?

It is this sort of knee jerk denigration that gets all of us fighting mad. You know BRP could molest baby sheep and statements like that would make me be it's biggest supporter.

Hey, I was only paraphrasing what he said. I've already stated that IMO what he listed as advantages for d20 are either not entirely accurate (i.e. the hardback thing), or are matters of subjective taste. There's really no need to get "fighting mad" with me. I have no real big preference between the two versions of the game as a game, they're both more or less equally good IMO for different reasons. I do think the non-game-mechanics writing in the d20 version is far and away superior and that Chaosium would be well served by including it in the 7th edition of BRP, but I'm not pretending that's anything other than a personal opinion (albeit one shared by many BRP fans as well).

KoOS

 

[TheLostSoul]

HOwever, d20 does have the advantage that you can modify how hard it is to do something.

You can modify the difficulty of an action in BRP. It is as simple as telling the player to add a number to his roll. Tou can make the action easier by telling him to subtract a number from his roll. This was already stated on the first page of this thread!

 

[Gomez]

For the love of me I can never understand by two groups of people who both adore lovecraftian role-play could be so dead set against the way in which the other one plays. It's like the some Mythos civil war had been declared and each side cannot stand the others choice of dice.

For the love of the Children* can't we just get along!



* Any mythos creature younglings such as baby deepones with cute webbed toes, star-spawn of cthulhu, dark young of Shub-Niggurath, child servents of Glaaki, baby ghouls, cththoian hatchlings, larval colours out of space, etc!

 

[jcfiala]

For the love of me I can never understand by two groups of people who both adore lovecraftian role-play could be so dead set against the way in which the other one plays. It's like the some Mythos civil war had been declared and each side cannot stand the others choice of dice.

*shrug* I, and at least one other person, run in both BRP and d20. But some people do only want to play one way, and that's fine with me. But when both sides are trying to convince a guy to run it their way...