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Campaign Setting Contest: Should We Do It Again?

Aldarc

Adventurer
My point is, WOTC didn't steal anyone's ideas of those who did submit and the paranoia was just that - unfounded fear.
I believe that James Wyatt had said that the idea for death-worshipping elves in Eberron came from Rich Burlew's submission, so...

Good point! I remember Midnight having different (and quite good) takes on the Ranger and Monk classes, not to mention plenty of racial variants.
Thank you, but this insight came from the horse's mouth: Bill Slavicsek talks about the setting search and Eberron in one of Keith Baker's blog entries.
 
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Mistwell

Adventurer
I believe that James Wyatt had said that the idea for death-worshipping elves in Eberron came from Rich Burlew's submission, so...
So Rich worked for WOTC. In fact as a result of that very contest Rich was hired by WOTC to write some stuff for them. Do we have different definitions of "steal" here?

Nobody had their submissions taken by WOTC and then used by WOTC for WOTC to make money off them, unless WOTC paid that person for work. It was a paranoid, unfounded fear.
 

Aebir-Toril

Explorer
So Rich worked for WOTC. In fact as a result of that very contest Rich was hired by WOTC to write some stuff for them. Do we have different definitions of "steal" here?

Nobody had their submissions taken by WOTC and then used by WOTC for WOTC to make money off them, unless WOTC paid that person for work. It was a paranoid, unfounded fear.
Of course it was.

Honestly, it's pretty egotistical to think that you own every idea in your setting.
 
From what I understand, the elves in Keith's proposal were basically what became the Valenar elves (ancestor worshiping steppe horsemen). One of the other designers remembered something similar in Rich's proposal involving the newly introduced deathless type, and incorporated into the setting as the Aerenal elves.
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
So Rich worked for WOTC. In fact as a result of that very contest Rich was hired by WOTC to write some stuff for them. Do we have different definitions of "steal" here?

Nobody had their submissions taken by WOTC and then used by WOTC for WOTC to make money off them, unless WOTC paid that person for work. It was a paranoid, unfounded fear.
Yeah, Rich's treatment was bought and paid for.
 

ModernApathy

Explorer
I don't think they'd run a setting competition these days just based on the way they've put out settings so far -

Ravenloft was an adventure
Ravnica was a tool box of ideas

It seems like the focus isn't really on setting as much as how a setting can be presented in an interesting or more useful way.
Who knows though, maybe the Ebberon hardcover will be more like the campaign setting books of earlier editions?

I'd still be keen to see the results if the were to run a comp though, I just can't see it happening.
 

lowkey13

Exterminate all rational thought
Going back to the OP, I think that we have two divergent ideas going on and being discussed.

The first is whether WoTC will do such a contest today. I think that the answer to that is likely no. Given their release schedule, and their desire to not muddy the issue and only present generic settings (other than AP toolkits, like Ravenloft, that can still be used in a variety of settings), I don't think WoTC will run such a contest. It's a different time.

However, I think it would be awesome. Sure, not everyone would be involved or stoked. But it would great to get a new generation thinking about it! I would love to see what people now would come up with- I bet it would be really cool. I know that DM's Guild (and other places) allow for self-publication, but there is something ... exciting ... about the official recognition and the contest.

Plus, think of the plethora of paladin-free worlds that would bloom, like ..... FREEDOM.
 

Greg Benage

Explorer
Yo, Midnight wasn’t part of the setting search! It was already published by that point. Dawnforge was our submission and made the semi-semi-finals (the top 10 or whatever).

On DF, I don’t recall there being anything in the final doc about new classes or racial levels - that’s how we developed it after we lost. I expect it would have been developed differently by Wizards if we’d won.

As the author, I think where we fell down on Dawnforge is that we wrote a really big high-concept check but failed to cash it when we described the kinds of adventures PCs would have. They came off a bit vanilla.

Anyway, nice trip down Memory Alley. Cheers!
 

Gradine

Archivist
However, I think it would be awesome. Sure, not everyone would be involved or stoked. But it would great to get a new generation thinking about it! I would love to see what people now would come up with- I bet it would be really cool. I know that DM's Guild (and other places) allow for self-publication, but there is something ... exciting ... about the official recognition and the contest.

To be fair, though, you explicitly cannot publish a new D&D setting on DM's Guild.
 

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