BriarMonkey
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If 4E still has rules for sundering, you could even apply that to an opponent's attempt to "remove" the cloak. Or may haps a creative use of disarming.
Can a DM expose a vampire character to sunlight with combat actions?
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twilsemail
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By that logic, you could just make an attack that does 7000 Radiant/Fire/Acid/Sand damage.
After all, they can't say it's unfair... (Also, who has resist Sand, anyway.)
ETA: Also, make it Melee Touch. If you're going to create a power, make it have a real range.
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jonesy
A Wicked Kendragon
Fremen?
webrunner
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well, obviously- i wasn't fully statting out the power I was just saying you can do that. And obviously, you wouldnt do something that just ruins the fun of the game, but if as teh DM you think it'd be an interesting challenge for your player to have to deal with the sunlight like that, you don't have to look in the rule book for a "grab clothing" action.
Dracorat
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A heavy cloak is all well and good for overhead sunlight...
But what about light bounced off a mirror? Mr. Vampy would then have to fight blind (after drawing closed his hood) or start taking radiant damage.
And before someone tries to say that's "indirect" sunlight - it's not. Indirect sunlight is the light that illuminates a room from light spilling in from outside or from light that's not immediately upon the surfaces in question.
But what about light bounced off a mirror? Mr. Vampy would then have to fight blind (after drawing closed his hood) or start taking radiant damage.
And before someone tries to say that's "indirect" sunlight - it's not. Indirect sunlight is the light that illuminates a room from light spilling in from outside or from light that's not immediately upon the surfaces in question.
Ferghis
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The problem with some of the suggestions is that the vulnerability only triggers if the character is in sunlight at the end of the character's turn. If I'm to play up to the vulnerability, I have to actually take the cloak away, or destroy it or something.
EDIT: I see that you mean the DM can play outside the rules. I agree. I'm just trying to figure out how.
Let's turn it around. Say the players are trying to use the page 42 (or whatever it is) rule. There is a hooded bad guy and, for whatever reason, they want to take the hood off of his head. Would you let them do so in combat? If so, how?
I don't get this at all. Are you trolling? If the DM is being unfair, s/he's being unfair. I don't see how being the DM or even the king would change that.
EDIT: I see that you mean the DM can play outside the rules. I agree. I'm just trying to figure out how.
Let's turn it around. Say the players are trying to use the page 42 (or whatever it is) rule. There is a hooded bad guy and, for whatever reason, they want to take the hood off of his head. Would you let them do so in combat? If so, how?
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GMforPowergamers
Legend
can I just say I could fill 100 posts with examples of DMs beign unfair...some of witch is I was the DM being unfair...
Heck yeah you can do this. Are you fracking kidding me??
Here's my suggestion:
Have the enemy make a Grab check. If the PC doesn't escape, next turn as a standard action the enemy tries to yank that damn cloak off.
Standard Action
Str vs. Fort
Hit: rip off the dude's cloak.
DMG Page 42 ftw.
As mentioned earlier, you're the DM. Make a ruling that makes sense, is plausible, and use DMG Page 42 and other powers as guidelines. Use your best judgment.
NEVER EVER limit cool-ass tactics like this. That goes for your players as well as your monsters.
Hopefully this inspires your PCs to do something not listed in their power card section...
Here's my suggestion:
Have the enemy make a Grab check. If the PC doesn't escape, next turn as a standard action the enemy tries to yank that damn cloak off.
Standard Action
Str vs. Fort
Hit: rip off the dude's cloak.
DMG Page 42 ftw.
As mentioned earlier, you're the DM. Make a ruling that makes sense, is plausible, and use DMG Page 42 and other powers as guidelines. Use your best judgment.
NEVER EVER limit cool-ass tactics like this. That goes for your players as well as your monsters.
Hopefully this inspires your PCs to do something not listed in their power card section...
That's right. The vampires weakness should never come into play...
This is not a "kill vampire" power. This is capitalizing on a weakness. I would expect the PCs to do the same thing to enemy vampires.
OP: Just make sure you can justify the monsters' knowledge that the PC is a vampire. And, then rip his damn cloak off.
