Can a PC force another PC to drink a potion in combat?

[Oryan77]

Bard is low on hitpoints and used up his action for the round. It's fighters turn and he already has a cure potion in his hand. He moves to the Bard and pours it in the Bards mouth. The Bard is now healed up.

Do you allow this to happen? And I don't mean allowing a Bard in your group

 

[calebw]

yes. especially if teh bard is helpless. friendly units can do alot of things to each other in combat, like move through squares and aid each other for attack bonuses. a fallen character can be healed by a cleric, so a fallen comrade can definitely take a potion while down.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Bard is low on hitpoints and used up his action for the round. It's fighters turn and he already has a cure potion in his hand. He moves to the Bard and pours it in the Bards mouth. The Bard is now healed up.

Do you allow this to happen? And I don't mean allowing a Bard in your group

A character can carefully administer a potion to an unconscious creature as a full-round action, trickling the liquid down the creature’s throat. Likewise, it takes a full-round action to apply an oil to an unconscious creature.

I'd apply similar logic if the character weren't unconscious - their standard action to drink it, or your full-round action to administer it. So I'd allow the fighter to 5' step to the bard and administer the potion, but not move to the bard and administer the potion - he'd need a full-round action available once he's adjacent.

-Hyp.

 

[shilsen]

A character can carefully administer a potion to an unconscious creature as a full-round action, trickling the liquid down the creature’s throat. Likewise, it takes a full-round action to apply an oil to an unconscious creature.

I'd apply similar logic if the character weren't unconscious - their standard action to drink it, or your full-round action to administer it. So I'd allow the fighter to 5' step to the bard and administer the potion, but not move to the bard and administer the potion - he'd need a full-round action available once he's adjacent.

-Hyp.

That's precisely how I'd rule on it and have in the past.

 

[Thurbane]

So how would you rule if the recipient were unwilling? Grapple check, followed by a Fort save not to swallow? Just curious...

 

[Pyrex]

I'd go a step further and say that your ally has to have him Pinned, not just Grappled, then *you* need to make a successful grapple check as a Full-Round action to force-feed the potion to the target.

 

[Wik]

I'd be a bit harsher. Full-round action to pour the potion, and the bard incurs a -2 AC penalty until his next action (and cannot make AoOs).

 

[Jhulae]

I'd go a step further and say that your ally has to have him Pinned, not just Grappled, then *you* need to make a successful grapple check as a Full-Round action to force-feed the potion to the target.

I'd be a bit harsher. Full-round action to pour the potion, and the bard incurs a -2 AC penalty until his next action (and cannot make AoOs).

Because *nothing* makes players want to watch each other's backs and help each other out like punishing them for it...

 

[Pyrex]

I'm not suggesting making it harder to help a downed comrade. There are already rules for feeding potions to helpless creatures (which generally means feeding a cure potion to a downed ally)

I'm suggesting making it hard to force-feed a potion to someone who doesn't want to drink it (i.e., force-feeding a Potion of Cure Serious Wounds to the Undead creature the party Monk is grappling...) as a response to Thurbane's question directly above my post.

 

[werk]

Because *nothing* makes players want to watch each other's backs and help each other out like punishing them for it...

I don't see it as punishing characters for helping one another. I see it as a deterrant from perceived possible abuse.

If you read the original request he is asking about how you would rule when a character is fighting and has used all his actions for the round and another character in the party wants to provide him another action to imbibe a potion so he doesn't go down.

I can just see the invisible, shoulder-riding brownie cohorts with potion bandaliers builds coming...

Unless I misunderstood the question.