Can I use an implement and a weapon at the same time?

[Noumenon]

I am porting my 3.5E wizard into 4E and he used to have a dagger with a prism in the handle as the focus for Rainbow Pattern. I thought the prism could be my "orb" implement but I wondered if you were allowed to have an orb and a weapon both.

 

[DracoSuave]

Depends. If you go Sorcerer, no need at all.

If you go wizard, I think there might be a magic weapon that doubles as an implement, thus accomplishing -exactly- what you need.

 

[Nifft]

IMHO it would be perfectly reasonable to create a magic dagger that counted as a magic orb, too.

Alternately, you could take the feat Arcane Implement Proficiency (light blades), and use any dagger. Not as an Orb specifically, but as an implement.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Noumenon]

Alternately, you could take the feat Arcane Implement Proficiency (light blades), and use any dagger. Not as an Orb specifically, but as an implement.

That sounds like the mechanically approved way for me to do what I want to do. Seems like my judgment causing me to post this as a question was correct; having both an orb and an implement is such a mechanically broken idea that they believe it should cost you a feat and the side benefits that an orb or staff normally give you. (Assuming the only effect of Arcane Implement Proficiency [light blades] is to let you use powers with the Implement keyword.)

Well, the wizard I am porting over had a 10 in Wisdom anyway, so if I can't use the Orb and dagger both I'll just leave it at 10 instead of switching it with his 14 in Con.