Can Prone Ally be shifted?
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keterys
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Yep, he does in fact do that in that game. Sort of. What he actually does is let Goblin Tactics trigger - it was otherwise _never_ going to trigger in their entire goblin encounter. So he might have ruled so just to show off the 'cool goblin power'. Or been in error. Or been ruling correctly. Dunno.
He also allows a scorching burst to not hit someone in the area, for everyone to shift with the fighter getting his immediate attack, etc. He's DMing a game for people who don't know the rules and playing fast and loose with certain things. Which is cool, but unfortunately not a silver bullet for solving the problem.
I really hope they errata prone soon
He also allows a scorching burst to not hit someone in the area, for everyone to shift with the fighter getting his immediate attack, etc. He's DMing a game for people who don't know the rules and playing fast and loose with certain things. Which is cool, but unfortunately not a silver bullet for solving the problem.
I really hope they errata prone soon
Yep, he does in fact do that in that game. Sort of. What he actually does is let Goblin Tactics trigger - it was otherwise _never_ going to trigger in their entire goblin encounter. So he might have ruled so just to show off the 'cool goblin power'. Or been in error. Or been ruling correctly. Dunno.
He also allows a scorching burst to not hit someone in the area, for everyone to shift with the fighter getting his immediate attack, etc. He's DMing a game for people who don't know the rules and playing fast and loose with certain things. Which is cool, but unfortunately not a silver bullet for solving the problem.
I really hope they errata prone soon
Thanks. I guess my rule will be you can shift while prone regardless of what is letting you do so. Your just screwed if your up against a wall
But this edition is pretty easy to make rules on the spot with so if any anomaly's pop up I think one can make a band aid quickly.
toxicspirit
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I don't think it's that big of a deal. The rules seem to say everything that is necessary. Movement is halved when crawling, which can be done while prone. No restrictions are placed on Shifting, so it shouldn't be affected (think of it maybe as rolling away).
In fact, no restrictions are made concerning running, so I see no reason not to allow a prone person to run (fast crawl) with the usual restrictions, and the increased distance halved (so a net gain of 1 square), as it is still 'movement'.
In fact, no restrictions are made concerning running, so I see no reason not to allow a prone person to run (fast crawl) with the usual restrictions, and the increased distance halved (so a net gain of 1 square), as it is still 'movement'.
AidyBaby
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Crawling 'at half speed' is subtly different to 'move up to half your speed'.
Crawling at half speed implies to me that you cannot shift into an adjacent square because it costs two squares (as in moving into difficult terrain), whereas
Crawling up to half your max speed implies that your movement doesn't cost two to enter a square (as in half speed) and therefore you can shift the 1 square.
Call me a rules lawyer if you want, but it's a pretty frequent event and I want to get it right RAW & RAI.
Crawling at half speed implies to me that you cannot shift into an adjacent square because it costs two squares (as in moving into difficult terrain), whereas
Crawling up to half your max speed implies that your movement doesn't cost two to enter a square (as in half speed) and therefore you can shift the 1 square.
Call me a rules lawyer if you want, but it's a pretty frequent event and I want to get it right RAW & RAI.
On Puget Sound
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Here is another thread on this issue: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=233553
(grrr, had to disable wysiwyg because it wanted me to type in Black, and now I don't have a Link button).
IMC, you can shift while prone if you take a double move (shift + shift) to do it, or if some power or effect is giving you two or more squares of shift (4 squares if crawl-shifting in difficult terrain).
(grrr, had to disable wysiwyg because it wanted me to type in Black, and now I don't have a Link button).
IMC, you can shift while prone if you take a double move (shift + shift) to do it, or if some power or effect is giving you two or more squares of shift (4 squares if crawl-shifting in difficult terrain).
catsclaw227
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I don't have my books here... what are the standing rules again?
Ranes
Adventurer
You mean a rules question.
Then perhaps you quit 3.x for the wrong reason. This is a rules discussion forum. People will tend to use it to discuss rules.
Need has nothing to do with it. Think want.
Danceofmasks
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Standing up is a move action. That is all (no provoking OA, doesn't count as moving, etc)
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