Can someone tell me how much this magic item would cost

The Shadow Lich

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Nosarauth's Crown of Undead Rulership


Powers: The wielder may use the following spells: At will/ animate dead, detect undead, hide from undead; 5/day create undead, desecrate; 1 day/ control undead, create greater undead, unhallow.

Strong transmutation; CL 15th; Craft Wondrous Item, animate dead, control undead, create undead, create greater undead, desecrate, detect undead, hide from undead, unhallow.
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Pelor's Light! Animate Dead at will, Create Undead 5/day?
I'm afraid I don't know where to begin. I assume you need to provide the material components for these spells?

If not, I'd assume the most expensive version capable from 15th level caster. So a 60HD undead from animate dead (in unhallowed area)x 25gp x 50, Create Undead and Greater undead is 50gp per HD at 15th level. I would probably double the material component cost for the at will abilities even though its not RAW. Then once you totaled each individual spells at thier per-day rate, take highest + 75% of the rest.
 

Oh wait, I know this one:

It would cost......


GAME BALANCE!!!!!!

Hello, this is an item of artifact power, so round up a caster of or say 30-50th level, the blood, bones and souls of say, a small village and call forth a named demon of say 20HD to entrap to power this crown of woven blackness and undead superiority and then thwo in some cash and we could talk about the cost....

really, your GM talk to you about this one?

(sorry, just had a flashback... disregard all that was said. Make it for 20GP and a box of hammers) ;)
 


I actually found a rod in the warcraft game that had all those abilities plus it functioned as a +1 light mace. The cost was 212,000 but I didnt think that looked right. I dont trust d20 stuff so that is why I asked. Ive played my character from 1st level to 31st level. It took a long time to get him there. Anyone who has actually played to epic levels will find 212,000 though it sounds like alot is not. No it would not be a artifact. Artifacts are not magic items that just cost alot they are items that can not be made period. Of course dieties with enough divine ranks can make them. I supose if you new what my characters sword did you would laugh. My dm is actually pretty strict but my character is no rule breaker. Look up the wealth for a character of that level and tell me I couldnt have it made. My character went through published dungeons and dragons quests until about 16th level. Ill tell you another thing my wealth was way above what it should have been then and that was going by published quests. I sold every thing and my dm only lets us sell for 50% of what equipment is worth. So yes my character has way more gold to spend then he should. My point is for low level characters its probably a game breaker but for a 31st level character I dont think so.
 
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having played D&D since 1981 (yeah, that's blue book to those who know) I say it is still and artifact and my values hold true.

But hey, what's that, 26 years, wadda I know? (I only have a charcter with over 6 million in 1st Ed xp, but hey that come so easy (only 20 years of playing- heck that's nothing!)
 

The Shadow Lich said:
My point is for low level characters its probably a game breaker but for a 31st level character I dont think so.

This item should certainly not be possible for any non-epic game. If it is an epic item, at the very least it shoul have an epic caster level requirement and require the epic creation feats. The creation requirements you mention simply do not make sense for such a powerful item. I would recommend taking this over to House Rules and rebuilding it from the ground up.

IMO, it's important to remember that once you get above about level 25 or so, balance is completely subjective based on the details of the game. What's fine in your group may be a game killer in others. You really can't expect someone on the internet to have a baseline for comparison to your game. Knowing that you are in epic levels changes the game entirely, and knowing more details about the other characters and items you play with would be necessary before any judgement about the item could be attempted.
 

The Shadow Lich said:
Nosarauth's Crown of Undead Rulership


Powers: The wielder may use the following spells: At will/ animate dead, detect undead, hide from undead; 5/day create undead, desecrate; 1 day/ control undead, create greater undead, unhallow.

Strong transmutation; CL 15th; Craft Wondrous Item, animate dead, control undead, create undead, create greater undead, desecrate, detect undead, hide from undead, unhallow.
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Kind of boring, isn't it? All it does is duplicate spell effects.

If you're making an item this powerful it should have some unique abilties not duplicated by any spells, with maybe some wonky fun conditionals to round it out.

Like, maybe instead of "at-will" animate dead, give it the ability to create an animate dead effect that simultaneously animates an entire battlefield worth of corpses.

Or maybe the 1/day 'Unhallow' could be something similiar to an Unhallow effect but limited that you can only have it on one area at a time, but on the other hand it covers a bigger area than a standard Unhallow.

And maybe it has a special effect tied to it, rahter than choose-your-spell.
 

The Shadow Lich said:
Nosarauth's Crown of Undead Rulership


Powers: The wielder may use the following spells: At will/ animate dead, detect undead, hide from undead; 5/day create undead, desecrate; 1 day/ control undead, create greater undead, unhallow.

Strong transmutation; CL 15th; Craft Wondrous Item, animate dead, control undead, create undead, create greater undead, desecrate, detect undead, hide from undead, unhallow.
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I have no problem with items like this. That being said here are the prices I came up with.

447,400 gp. or 357,687 gp 5 sp if you figure the numbers like you do with a magical staff. (100% of most expensive spell, 75% of second most expensive spell, 50% of all other spells.)

Market price clearly places this in the realm of epic items, but it is most assuredly a possible item which can be made by a mortal being.
 

justinsluder said:
I have no problem with items like this. That being said here are the prices I came up with.

447,400 gp. or 357,687 gp 5 sp if you figure the numbers like you do with a magical staff. (100% of most expensive spell, 75% of second most expensive spell, 50% of all other spells.)

Market price clearly places this in the realm of epic items, but it is most assuredly a possible item which can be made by a mortal being.
And don't forget the x10 cost multiplier for being an epic item (cost>
200k) so looks like 3.5 million GP...
Honnestly I don't see why an epic character would want or make this item though. Should be making an item that improve his spells, or allow him to do stuff he normally couldn't...
 

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