Can this be right?

[Gnimish88]

SRD says: but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity).

So, technically, he could make several AoOs against the same opponent.

Also, he could get Defensive Strike and get a further bonus against anyone who attacks - and misses - him in combat when he's using the total defense action. That means more attacks.

Congratulations. You've been accepted into the school of Find a Broken Combo and Irritate Your DM. If you're lucky you might even get the 'Get Kicked Out Of the Game' Diploma!

I welcome you to the club with open arms!

You missed the line before it: This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity.

If someone takes a full attack, it's still just 1 action, regardless of how many times you're hit by him. You only get 1 attack per action.

Now, if 6 guys hit you, you'd get six attacks back, one at each.

Does using a half-ogre with Improved Trip, Disarm, Unarmed Strike, and Grapple also get me into this club?

But on the thread, since the feat says that a successful attack provokes an AoO, wouldn't that mean that EACH hit povoked one, even from only one opponent?

 

[Gnimish88]

Sorry about that, I am apparently having net issues at the moment.

 

[Wippit Guud]

Hmm..
How does that Riposte feat work..? (forget which book it's in)

 

[Tilla the Hun (work)]

-rofl- never seen so many quick responses

In regards to the number of attacks of opportunity... Each attack consitutes a seperate AoO opportunity even if part of a full-round action like full attack... Consider a full move for a second. Since the spiked chain threatens 10', if you move through the threat zone, each threat square you leave provokes a seperate opportunity, regardless of the fact that it is a full round action.

In regards to Defensive Strike - where is that? Sounds like something the character would rather take over Goad.

Same with riposte - what book?

 

[kreynolds]

Consider a full move for a second. Since the spiked chain threatens 10', if you move through the threat zone, each threat square you leave provokes a seperate opportunity, regardless of the fact that it is a full round action.

I'm not so sure about that. From the SRD...

"Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn’t count as more than one opportunity for that opponent."

This also makes me doubt what I've heard about multiple AoO's due to a full-attack action. Is the latter an official ruling? I only recently started looking into it.

 

[Voadam]

Agile riposte from d20 modern (and the d20 modern srd), when someone you have applied your dodge feat to misses you then they provoke an AoO from you.

 

[the Jester]

I believe that the PHB specifically states that moving out of multiple threatened squares is an exception to the way most AoOs are handled and counts only as one opportunity. IIRC, the clear implication is that if it wasn't a specific exception, you would get one AoO for each square that your enemy moves through.

Not sure exactly where said quote is off hand, though...

 

[Wippit Guud]

From SRD:

Provoking an Attack of Opportunity: Two kinds of actions can provoke attacks of opportunity: moving out of a threatened square and performing an action within a threatened square.

Note it says performing an action.

This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity,

AoO's are provoked by an action. A full attack action is still just one action, regardless of how many attacks.

I think...

 

[Tilla the Hun (work)]

From SRD:

Provoking an Attack of Opportunity: Two kinds of actions can provoke attacks of opportunity: moving out of a threatened square and performing an action within a threatened square.

Note it says performing an action.

This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity,

AoO's are provoked by an action. A full attack action is still just one action, regardless of how many attacks.

I think...

Therein lies the balancing factor, thankfully.

Therein lies the balancing factor, thankfully...

Combat Reflexes and Additional Attacks of Opportunity: If you have the Combat Reflexes feat you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity). Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn’t count as more than one opportunity for that opponent. All these attacks are at your full normal attack bonus.

"Moving out of more than one square..." pretty much kills the move action (thanks for clearing that one up )

However, the full attack action vs a single melee attack option still confuses the issue...

Consider the concept that AoO's are judged by the action for almost every combat chart you can find in the SRD. Thus, the full round attack is a single action that does not normally incur an AoO, although Karmic Strike may allow you to respond to it with a single attack.

Note that this also affects the fighter standing next to a ranged combatant... If the ranger opts to use a full attack bonus to shoot the fighter 4 times, the fighter can only attack him on the first opportunity, assuming no special feats. Combat reflexes, according to this concept, will not allow him to make additional AoO's because the ranger is using a full attack action. Karmic Strike would not allow him to do so either...

Since Combat Reflexes is a PreReq for Karmic Strike, this seems to be slightly off, i.e Karmic Strike would not provide any benefit beyond what Combat Reflexes is already giving you, other than exteding an AoO from an adjacent opponents Ranged attack to their Melee attack as well - which doesn't quite line up with the prereqs of Karmic Strike (can't post those direct, can I?) or the nature of the feat as it specifically states that when the opponent you threaten 'strikes' or 'hits' you (can't remember if it is strike or hit, suspect it is hit), you immediately make a single melee attack of opportunity against them. It's not when they 'attack' you (if they miss, you get nothing, unlike CR vs Ranged), it's only when they hit you...

So unless someone can post what Karmic Strike indicates, I'll have to wait until tonight to double check that and let y'all know tomorrow...

Anybody got the books Miniatures or Complete Warrior? It's in one or the other...

 

[Kemrain]

What is this Deft Opportunist feat? What does it do? Where is it from?

- Kemrain the... Intrigued.