Asmor
First Post
Wai- what?!?
So in other words, you're passing judgment on something you haven't experienced and have little knowledge of by comparing it to something else you haven't experienced and (based on your comments below) have little knowledge of? The next president of the US is going to suck because he or she's exactly like Napoleon!
Ignoring the fact that I don't know of any MMOs which go to level 30 (50 and 60 are typical, with the cap being raised by 5 or 10 for each expansion), what the hell does this have to do with anything? What would it matter if it were 5 levels or 500?
On top of that, it's really not any different from D&D as it stands today. They've said that level 21-30 is epic, and all they've done is integrated epic rules into the core rules.
Once more, I really need to restrain myself from making any ad hominem attacks... Mortal Kombat (with a K) is a fighting game, about as far as you could possibly get from an MMO. On top of that, there are no power ups in MK. Compare that to D&D, where before every fight characters need to wait five minutes for their clerics to bless them and check to make sure that they remember the activation words for all their nifty magic items.
The first setting they're publishing, much to my consternation, is Forgotten Realms, which is arguably more popular to the older crowd than Greyhawk. Certainly, I'd expect a much larger outcry if they nixed FR and continued Greyhawk in its stead. On top of that, they're keeping the proper names from Greyhawk, whatever that means (I guess that means with spells).
Incidentally, you do realize that "sacred cow" is a loaded term, which bears with it the connotation that something which is a "sacred cow" is bad and is only around because it's always been around... right? So basically, you just complained that 4e is getting rid of bad stuff.
cperkins said:As a guy who has never and will never play a MMORPG, the new version of D&D looks to be heavily influenced by World of Warcraft and other MMORPGs
So in other words, you're passing judgment on something you haven't experienced and have little knowledge of by comparing it to something else you haven't experienced and (based on your comments below) have little knowledge of? The next president of the US is going to suck because he or she's exactly like Napoleon!
(30-level progression
Ignoring the fact that I don't know of any MMOs which go to level 30 (50 and 60 are typical, with the cap being raised by 5 or 10 for each expansion), what the hell does this have to do with anything? What would it matter if it were 5 levels or 500?
On top of that, it's really not any different from D&D as it stands today. They've said that level 21-30 is epic, and all they've done is integrated epic rules into the core rules.
, character "power-ups" that sound more akin to Mortal Combat than D&D
Once more, I really need to restrain myself from making any ad hominem attacks... Mortal Kombat (with a K) is a fighting game, about as far as you could possibly get from an MMO. On top of that, there are no power ups in MK. Compare that to D&D, where before every fight characters need to wait five minutes for their clerics to bless them and check to make sure that they remember the activation words for all their nifty magic items.
moving away from Greyhawk and other D&D sacred cows)
The first setting they're publishing, much to my consternation, is Forgotten Realms, which is arguably more popular to the older crowd than Greyhawk. Certainly, I'd expect a much larger outcry if they nixed FR and continued Greyhawk in its stead. On top of that, they're keeping the proper names from Greyhawk, whatever that means (I guess that means with spells).
Incidentally, you do realize that "sacred cow" is a loaded term, which bears with it the connotation that something which is a "sacred cow" is bad and is only around because it's always been around... right? So basically, you just complained that 4e is getting rid of bad stuff.