Can you cleave after making an AoO?

[Tony Vargas]

However, you can't be tried for murder if there isn't a body. In the eyes of the victim, this is probably a really "retarded" law, as I imagine they would want their killer brought to justice, but does that change anything? No.

AFAIK, the haebeas corpus requirement doesn't call for an actual body, just sufficient evidence that the crime happened. And, well, there are lots of situations where the law or how it aplies isn't perfectly clear - that's why you have courts, judges, and (ugh) congress, to interpret and even change the laws.

Now, it doesn't take a legal scholar to recognize a bad rule, nor a judge to re-interpret one, nor a majority of supreme court justices to strike one down, nor an act of congress to change one, so why play with a crappy rule? They're easy enough to fix.

And, yeah, most DMs end up dealing with broke rules more often than perfect players. ;( Do count yourself lucky on that score.

I've GM'd for the full spectrum of gamers. From the saintly ones who wouldn't powergame to save thier own lives, let alone thier characters, to the more common sort who'll powergame enough to create effective characters, to those that can't stop powergaming to save thier own lives, to those who don't know the rules well enough /to/ powergame. If you have no problem with broken rules ever being exploited, your group is probably made up entirely of the first and last sort... in what proportions I have no idea.

 

[doktorstick]

I'll tell ya' what I'll be honest about. Apparently, when every DM out there went to the Great Player Lottery, reached into the magic bucket to draw their chips that would assign them their players, nearly every single one of you got screwed, saddled with "retarded" players that would take advantage of such "retarded" rules so that they can pull off the "bucket o' whateverthehell" tactic. Why do I say this? Quite simple, really. None of my players have ever tried it, and I doubt they would. Why? I imagine it has a lot to do with the fact that their mindsets are higher than that of a 13 year old. Then again, I could just be really lucky.

Hear! Hear!