Can you take Iron Will more than once?

Falling Icicle said:
I have to disagree. If feats could be taken more than once as a general rule, there would be no need for any feat to specify that it can be. Every feat which can be taken multiple times clearly says so in its description, and also indicates what effect it has to purchase it more then once. Iron Will is not one of them.

As an example its possible to have the same feat more than once even if the description doesn't allow it if you take a PrC that gives you a feat as a class ability which duplicates one you already have. I suppose the wording in the PHB is written so as not to conflict with this possibility. i.e you can take/have the same feat many times but the results don't stack unless the description says so. The text that comes with certain feats is more to explain how the exceptions to this rule work.

I can't really think of many feats that this wording would effect as most well written feats clearly explain under the special heading if they can be stacked, or taken for different skills/weapons etc. One that does spring to mind though is skill knowledge in UA which neglects the usual passage to describe that it could be taken for different skills. I guess there are other feats in other sources that are also unclear
 

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SRD said:
Benefit: What the feat enables the character (“you” in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description. In general, having a feat twice is the same as having it once.

Obviously, taking feats more than once is allowed, but not terribly useful.
 

Sejs said:
I've got to disagree with you there. Class with bad will saves (say, fighter) + Iron Will once does not equal a class with good will saves, let alone outstrip it.

Anyway, by the rules no, you can't take Iron Will more than once.

If you run it by a DM and the DM says sure what the heck, go for it, then you could, however.

IMO, a character being defined by their abilities, in this case having a good will save from spending feats to that end, rather than relying on magic items to carry the weight for them, is a good thing.

I like it. By the rules...no. But if you want to burn up your feats on Iron Will, so be it.
 

We have the rule that "Improved Initiative" can be taken as many times as you want to.

I haven't really though about the save-feats, but I don't see too many balance-issues with it, since feats are hard to come by :-)
 

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