Can you use a Partial Action to Ready for later in the round?

[IceBear]

Yeah - that's true. Like I said, I was just taking the Ready = Standard Action too literally.

As an aside, I allow a Wisdom check (DC15) for someone readying an action to change to a delay if the trigger isn't going to happen. I used to find that no one would use ready actions for fear of losing their actions (and even with that, they still don't )

IceBear

 

[AGGEMAM]

Could you use your move to ready an action?

I was going to say: please re-read the entire PHB, slower this time, but I am not going to say that.

Ready is a Standard Action. A standard is an action plus a move. The two are only downwards exchangable, ie you can exchange an action for a move but not vice-versa. So you cannot use your action and ready your move, but you can move and ready your action (which could be a move).

 

[aliensex]

I was going to say: please re-read the entire PHB, slower this time, but I am not going to say that.

Alas, another poor soul born with the social graces of a turnip.

I should have worded what I was saying better. I was just wondering if there was a way to delay the movement portion of your actions based on a trigger, like following someone you attacked if they try to move away, in the rules. I guess by the core rules there isn't a way to do it. It doesn't seem like you can just delay the movement portion of your action.

 

[IceBear]

If you readied an action to take a partial move to follow an opponent should he move, then that would work. The problem is, your opponent could take a double move (to your partial). You could move 30ft to stand next to someone and then ready an action to follow them if they move. When they move you have a partial move action left to move another 30ft.

Also, remember, that you can ready a partial charge (so you can move and attack) or take a 5ft step with your partial action.

IceBear

 

[aliensex]

If you readied an action to take a partial move to follow an opponent should he move, then that would work. The problem is, your opponent could take a double move (to your partial). You could move 30ft to stand next to someone and then ready an action to follow them if they move. When they move you have a partial move action left to move another 30ft.

Also, remember, that you can ready a partial charge (so you can move and attack) or take a 5ft step with your partial action.

IceBear

Yes, thats all true, but the problem is that an attack has already been done in the round. If Fighter A attacks, then realizes he doesn't need to move at all, is there a way to delay or ready his move to follow his target if it moves? I agree, that readying is a standard action by the rules. I was wondering if there was a core rules way of doing it. I was pretty sure before, but I am positive now that this would require a house ruling to accomplish.

 

[Artoomis]

Except one thing the PHB says you stop being flat-footed when you have had the chance to act, that means that even if you delay you are not flat-footed after that point.

When your initiative count comes up the first time in combat, you choose delay, but you still had the chance to act.

Hmmm...

The SRD quote is:

A character who has not yet acted during a combat is flat-footed...

Is what you quoted above the ACTUAL PHB language, or just what you recall?

 

[AGGEMAM]

Yes, thats all true, but the problem is that an attack has already been done in the round. If Fighter A attacks, then realizes he doesn't need to move at all, is there a way to delay or ready his move to follow his target if it moves? I agree, that readying is a standard action by the rules. I was wondering if there was a core rules way of doing it. I was pretty sure before, but I am positive now that this would require a house ruling to accomplish.

No need for a house rule. You can just delay your move.

 

[IceBear]

Yes, thats all true, but the problem is that an attack has already been done in the round. If Fighter A attacks, then realizes he doesn't need to move at all, is there a way to delay or ready his move to follow his target if it moves? I agree, that readying is a standard action by the rules. I was wondering if there was a core rules way of doing it. I was pretty sure before, but I am positive now that this would require a house ruling to accomplish.

Ah, ok, I understand now. Since you no longer have a standard action to ready a move action, yeah, there's nothing you can do in the standard rules.

I wonder if lenient usage of the delay option would work? You attack and then delay your movement, dropping your initiative to fall to when you move.

Not allowed by the rules, but maybe this would be a use for delay (I've never seen anyone use it before).

IceBear

 

[IceBear]

You're allowed to break up your actions like that?

I thought that if you had to complete your standard action on the same initiative count.

I'm all for allowing delay to do that, but I did think you had to start and complete your entire action on the same count. Cool.

IceBear

 

[aliensex]

No need for a house rule. You can just delay your move.

Really? I didn't think you could delay just the movement portion of you actions. Delaying seems to mean you delay your entire initiative. I don't have my books with me unfortunately, and I didn't see anything like this in the SRD