D&D 5E Casting more than one spell in a turn/round

[Athinar]

There should be a statement in Chapter 10 about the Metamagic Options affect on Casting Time, etc...

Fighters Surge Action is not listed in the "Page 189 - and take one action" but it still has an affect

so does the Sorcerers Quickened Spell have the same "BUT" affect as the Surge Action

Page 189 - "and take one action (except for Fighter Surge Action)"
Page 202 - "you can't cast another spell during the same turn, except for a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action (except for the Sorcerer's Quickened Spell)"

Haste also gives a second Action - Use a Fireball Wand

 

[Athinar]

Action - Cantrip - Firebolt
Bonus Action - Fireball 2 sorcery points
Haste - Wand of Fireballs
Surge Action - Fireball

Still bringing the Heat as a Red Dragon Born 6th level Sorcerer Red Dragon/ 3rd Fighter

 

[Abciximab]

Word of God, or at least Jeremy Crawford, is that you can use Action Surge to get two leveled spells off in the same round. Source.

But then later when asked specifically about Action Surge and 2 leveled spells Jeremy Crawford said no.

https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/573948195018960896

 

[TheGogmagog]

Since the Jeremy Crawford ruling was later redacted, (see above), I'll point out that when you ready a spell, it is cast on your turn and you hold the effect until the condition is met (requiring concentration ). I don't think there is a way to cast two leveled spells on your turn.

 

[fjw70]

Since the Jeremy Crawford ruling was later redacted, (see above), I'll point out that when you ready a spell, it is cast on your turn and you hold the effect until the condition is met (requiring concentration ). I don't think there is a way to cast two leveled spells on your turn.

Not redacted.

Bonus action spell --> only Cantrip for regular action and action surge

No bonus action spell --> leveled spell for regular action and leveled spell for action surge

 

[Paraxis]

The problem trying to add wand to the mix is it doesn't work for two reason.

Using a magic item, does not fall under the "Use Item" action.

If an item requires an action to activate, that action isn't a function of the Use an Item action, so a feature such as the rogue's Fast Hands can't be used to activate the item.

pg 141 of the DMG

And using a wand is "casting the spell" it falls under all the same restrictions as any other spell casting. So if cast a bonus action spell on your turn, you cant use a wand, staff, or scroll to "cast" a non-cantrip spell as your action.

Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise. The spell uses its normal casting time, range, and duration, and the user of the item must concentrate if the spell requires concentration.

pg 141 of the DMG

 

[Psikerlord#]

But then later when asked specifically about Action Surge and 2 leveled spells Jeremy Crawford said no.

https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/573948195018960896

I read that tweet as follows: you can action surge to cast 2 fireballs in one round. Unless you also use a bonus action spell. In which case the bonus action spell rule comes into play, which then restricts you to cantrips.

 

[CapnZapp]

Action Surge works. Is it the only way to get two proper actions in a round?

 

[Nebulous]

It still isn't right.

The rule is: If you use your bonus action to cast a spell, the only other spell you can cast is a cantrip.

Action Surge might allow you to break that for the Action Surge spell, but it won't for your regular action, which must be a cantrip.

Cheers!

AND, it still bothers me that a Fighter's Action Surge makes you a more formidable wizard, which seems silly to me.

 

[Caliban]

Haste also gives a second Action - Use a Fireball Wand

Nope. You can use the extra Haste action to "take the Attack Action (one weapon attack only), Dash, Disengage, Hide, or Use an Object action."

Activating a magic item is its own type of action (per the DMG), you can't activate a Fireball Wand with the extra Haste action.

It is really annoying that the DMG added a new action type for magic items that isn't referenced at all in the PHB, but it's been confirmed by Jeremy Crawford.