Charge Action Questions

[Exquisite Dead Guy]

Charge is listed as a standard action but the text does say "move your speed as part of the charge". If someone chooses to charge do they still have a move action left? If so, any reason that charge can't be combined with the run move action for a net -4 to hit (-5 for run and +1 for charge)?

 

[Tony Vargas]

Yes. You can both move and charge on your turn. Thus you can move into position to have a straight line for your charge, then charge. I suppose, you can charge, then move away from your target (probably granting and OA) - but something about that doesn't sound quite right... maybe I'm just still thinking 3e.

I don't know about running for a move, then charging. I suppose if you can attack after running, you can charge after running. I see no reason why the modifiers wouldn't be cumulative.

 

[frankthedm]

Charge is listed as a standard action but the text does say "move your speed as part of the charge". If someone chooses to charge do they still have a move action left? If so, any reason that charge can't be combined with the run move action for a net -4 to hit (-5 for run and +1 for charge)?

IIRC you can't take any move type actions after a charge.

Yes, you could first Run, then Charge. The -5 to hit penalty seems to have been added in during late play-testing to discourage doing this. Apparently giving out combat advantage was worth it to some people for two more squares of Charge Range and Archery Zoning Potential.

 

[Hypersmurf]

IIRC you can't take any move type actions after a charge.

Unless you spend an action point to do so.

I think a lot of people get tripped up by the fact that the "No actions after a charge" rule is over the page.

-Hyp.