D&D 5E Charisma to prevent giving out info during interrogation?

[Asisreo]

How does it sound to use Charisma to prevent giving out information during an interrogation/torture sequence involving the characters as the subject of torture? Most players would simply refuse to give information because they don't feel the pressure of giving the information out without death outright being a consequence. Because otherwise, there's nothing for them to lose.

At first, I was thinking of using Charisma saves because they're being involuntarily pushed to do something that requires willpower to prevent, but then I thought of a skill contest, since the torturer can torture indefinitely, it's up to the character to persuade the torturer that they won't give any information.

So, it would be a Persuasion vs Intimidation check and on success, the character gives out no information during the interrogation and on failure, they share one bit of information.

How does that sound? Too much? Would you enjoy this type of interaction? Would you prefer a different ruling or just let the player decide whether they break or not?

 

[Ovinomancer]

How does it sound to use Charisma to prevent giving out information during an interrogation/torture sequence involving the characters as the subject of torture? Most players would simply refuse to give information because they don't feel the pressure of giving the information out without death outright being a consequence. Because otherwise, there's nothing for them to lose.

At first, I was thinking of using Charisma saves because they're being involuntarily pushed to do something that requires willpower to prevent, but then I thought of a skill contest, since the torturer can torture indefinitely, it's up to the character to persuade the torturer that they won't give any information.

So, it would be a Persuasion vs Intimidation check and on success, the character gives out no information during the interrogation and on failure, they share one bit of information.

How does that sound? Too much? Would you enjoy this type of interaction? Would you prefer a different ruling or just let the player decide whether they break or not?

I think you might need to back up and consider the whole "torture PCs"scene context. Why is this even happening?

 

[bloodtide]

I doubt this would work out in game play. Even if you drop the "torture PCs" bit.

To say an NPC "somehow" just "gets" information from a PC is a bit boring. High save PCs will just ignore it, and low save ones will always fail.

But having Klarg the Big Boot "tell the NPCs everything" for the 44th time....is just boring.

 

[Krachek]

Wisdom saving throw is the usual defense for mental intrusion, manipulation.

 

[Cadence]

Person 1 tries to interrogate person 2 using charisma vs. will.
If person 2 saves, they then can try to manipulate person 1 using charisma vs. will?

 

[payn]

I have been thinking about this but in a more modern spy/law enforcement angle. Where the interrogator and interrogated do this match of wits. I could see any combo of Int/Wis/Cha being used in such an example.

For actually being tortured, I'd probably use fort saves to take the pain and not give in. Though, I'd likely not enact such a scenario at my table.

 

[Minigiant]

Charisma isn't really "willpower". It's sense of self, soul, or personality.
A Charisma saving or refensive skill roll would not be used in normal interrogation. Especially torture. You know when a Charisma check/save is appropriate?

Spoiler

Gaslighting

When the interrogator or torturer is attempting you replace part or most of a person's personality, viewpoints, or ideals. That's why I use Cha saves for charms, mind control, and other personality shifts.

Now RPing active in the now

Spoiler

gaslighting

as a DM isn't easy. At all. For normal people.

 

[Guest 7034872]

Why not CON?

 

[DND_Reborn]

This is where social interaction could be a form of combat...

If you had a social "AC" so to say, the interrogator would make an "Intimidation Attack" and deal psychic damage. The PC makes a "You can't break me" attack of some sort back, etc. Whoever goes to 0 hp loses and either gives up the interrogation or the information.

 

[aco175]

I'm reading the OP as having the player's PCs give up information and not bad guys being tortured by the PCs. The players can choose to play this way and give a chance for his PC to give something up and other players may just want to roleplay or never give anything up. they could even try to lie or try to make a check against the bad guys torturing them.

I would not want to make the players accept it for their PCs. The players are in charge of their PCs.