Sadras
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It is true, networking plays a big role in politics, but what I was saying is that your education requirement is a filter that will keep some people out without preventing corruption and incompetence. So, what would an education requirement really do, aside from preventing some moral, competent, intelligent people from office?
It will provide someone with the same background in education whom I feel comfortable with in being a president and has a level of education that I can at least respect.
In South Africa many African tribes mutilate their young boys with traditional circumcision at the age of 16+/-. Our president, a Zulu, wasn't afforded that luxury so many Xhosa and other black tribes do not view our current president as a Man. We all have our requirements.
Will it help curb corruption. No.
Will it help curb incompetence. I don't know.
Will it help bring a modicum of respect to the position: Yes it will.
Please elaborate how this is a false analogy.Your making a false analogy.
I know right. I mean I'm being really outrageous asking for this. It is true the Academy for Butlers in Canada asks applicants for a transcript that proves graduation from high school as does the US Mail Service, but I'm really taking it to the next level requiring a president of a country have this as a requirement. It is simply mad! Too ludicrous for words.That is a rather elitist view of who should be in office.
It means who gets to decide what is the right education needed to become president? The politico-economic elites will want people like it to represent it. So most likely a university degree will be required...(snip)
You were just rambling here so I cut you off, cause I know we were only discussing about a high school certificate not a degree...just ensuring straw men are kept to a minimum.
Umbran's originally actually.A child's "sins", to use your vocabulary,
is the parents' fault because it didn't enforce violent punishement to correct behavior. That violence is the way to foster civic virtues.
It can enforce discipline in kids, that is my stance. Can it be abused - sure, but I don't see us banning guns, alcohol and sugar. I also don't see us banning Catholic Priests.
You do realise that I never said it does, but I feel he is coming, I can feel it....It ignores external factors, like say the impact of apartheid...(snip)
But I guess apartheid was just being strick with a population that like children wasn't mature enough to govern itself.
And here he is!!! 10 feet of pure unadulterated straw man!
Again, elaborate.Again, a false analogy.
Good of you to notice, but I feel the need to rail you in a little because you really love these straw men, my punishment was for varsity kids. Adults in terms of South Africa.University is education...(snip)
Althought, from what you said there does seem to be elements of free speech in what they did.
As long as there is no destruction of public and heritage property which there was...
Correction, I answered your question.Thanks for demonstrating my point.
Also, is the percentage of white prisoner the same as in the general population?
Absolutely no idea. I feel I need to point out that in South Africa the term 'coloured' is a mix-breed between a black and a white person which is a racial group on its own and is almost on par in terms of numbers with Whites. Cape Malays fall into that coloured group. But the composition of the various categories in jail - is in the hands of google.
Maybe if it had more policies like Norway it would be more like Norway.
You expect to integrate a society into Western Culture over night or even over 10 years. You have no idea the baggage we have - never mind white vs black, we have coloured vs black, coloured vs white, black vs black and 13 official languages, African culture which includes believing in muti medicine (google it), and the political structure/society/laws of the tribal kings/chiefs...etc
Nevermind the socio-political-economic messup that Apartheid caused.
So, black people would be disproportionately affected by your education requirement for the presidency, no?
No.
You're not denying it is exploitation.
No. But why don't you go enjoy our rape statistics and let me know who exactly is being exploited. Is it these men, or is it our women that are being exploited.
You also do not mind that using prisoners takes away paying jobs for the general population.
It really wouldn't. It would be allowing the government to spend more on education, healthcare, housing...etc and of course corruption.
And, if black people are over represented in prisons, that they would be more exploited in your prefered system.
Sure. But I don't see colour, I see criminals - that is the difference between you and I.
Here is a startling statistic about Canadian prisons: "9.5 per cent of federal inmates today are Black (an increase of 80 per cent since 2003/04), yet Black Canadians account for less than three per cent of the total Canadian population. Aboriginal people represent a staggering 23 per cent of federal inmates yet comprise 4.3 per cent of the total Canadian population.” -
We had Apartheid, what was your excuse? I'm curious as to what kind of programmes are you running over there, that are assisting your black people with their civic duties?
That being said, I agree with you that capitalism is a system based on violence, exploitation and inequality. The problem is that your solutions foster violence, exploitation and inequality.
Well we aren't going to agree and that is fine.
Ringing bells are synonymous with shame? Is that an Afrikaner meme?
No. Its a modern cultural reference.
But to add, that your country, along with UK, New Zealand and Australia are becoming the havens of the Afrikaners and other whites and even coloureds as things become progressively worse in South Africa.
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