Chronicles of Riddick (Spoilers)

Quasqueton said:
The Necromunders attack and land that very night. Riddick fights a few, then goes to the "town hall". A Necromunder soldier is not killed (or apparently even bothered) by a knife sticking out of his back, but he is killed when Riddick sticks that same knife in his gut. Huh?
If the knife didn't kill him when it went in, and it was frozen in place so it wouldn't cause any more damage, it not hurting to leave it in is entirely possible--and pulling it out would do just as much harm as shoving it back in.

What was the bond or understanding that Riddick had with the dogs? That was never explained.
"It's an animal thing." It's explained enough.

The escaped prisoners were outrunning the sunrise? Over that terrain? And when the sunrise finally caught up to them, at the wall, they managed to outdistance it again, with enough time to spare to sit down and watch the Necromunders land and fight the guards.
That "wall' was a mountain. Instead of just having to be the rihgt angle to hit the mountain, the sun has to be over the mountain--and, trust me, that can take quite awhile.

The Commissar Furian/Necromunder explains the situation to Riddick then suicides by walking out into the sun light. Why? Why suicide?
To avoid enslavement.

And how does Riddick survive the sunrise just because he is in the hanger, just 10' away from 700 degrees? Good thing for Riddick that heat doesn't spread in his universe.
Hangar shields.

What are the elementals? Why was this race even mentioned? The one member we saw was nothing but a "wise woman". Why was it necessary for her to not be a regular human?
Why necessary to set it in space, or let Riddick see in the dark?

Hell, Riddick spent more time in the irrelevant (to the plot) prison planet than he did against the Necromunders, which the whole movie premise was about.
No, it's about Riddick. The time in the prison is important as it shows the bond to Kira--which will hopefully get revisited later in the series, if they can do a later in the series.

If you want to see more, recommend the movie. If it grosses enough, the producers will ask for the key to the second pitch, and we'll get to see CoRII.
 

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The Necromongers kept reminding me of the Deathlords and Abyssals from Exalted.

I also spent half the movie trying to remember where I recognized the actor who played Vaako from.

Kai Lord said:
During the scene with the dogs I thought we were going to eventually learn that those were the animals Riddick got his eyes from >snip<

That, according to Gamespot's review, is explained in the Xbox game CoR: Escape from Butcher Bay.
 
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Welverin said:
The Necromongers kept reminding me of the Deathlords and Abyssals from Exalted.

I also spent half the movie trying to remember where I recognized the actor who played Vaako from.



That, according to Gamespot's review, is explained in the Xbox game CoR: Escape from Butcher Bay.
That'd be Karl Urban, who also played Eomir in Lord of the Rings.
 

I actually figured out it was the guy who played Eomer before it ended, though his name I didn't know. Of course once I did figure it out it elicited a “don't trust in hope comment…”

It was his voice I recognized initially, but it was the different hair and the lack of a beard that inhibited my lack of recognition over all.
 


Just saw the movie and thought it was a pretty good action flick and summer movie. Here are some criticisms though:

1) Lord Marshall was not a good bad guy. They didn't give him enough screen time or something. They talk about his fear of Riddick, but you never see it.

2) The shaky camera marred what could have been some great fight scenes.

3) The beginning of the movie on Helion seemed disconcerting to me. Maybe it was the flashing lights and quick cuts, but it gave me a headache.

4) For every nuance and intangible done right, such as the igniting of the atmosphere on Crematorium, or the artificial sweat when he save Kiara on the cliff, there are a number of holes. Like why is there any oxygen left on Crematorium, and why does the heat only spread where the light hits, or what was that suicide group doing in the invasion of Helion.

5) They didn't develop the Necromongers at all. They didn't explain what they did to converts, where they came from, why they are so zealous, what their religion is, or where they got their technology. Nothing.

To me the execution was off for all these great ideas. All the characters could have been great. Lord Marshall was Oedipus, Vaaku was a Brutus, his wife of course Lady Macbeth and of course Riddick who wears the unsought mantle of a hero. The setting was cool and the plot was sound. It just missed the execution.
 

Welverin said:
The Necromongers kept reminding me of the Deathlords and Abyssals from Exalted.

I also spent half the movie trying to remember where I recognized the actor who played Vaako from.



That, according to Gamespot's review, is explained in the Xbox game CoR: Escape from Butcher Bay.

Go Exalted Go!

Sorry... I got carried away... but yes, Karl Urban rocks. He's my pseudo-hero. He should be awarded some form of medallion of sorts. Perhaps made of Soulsteel?

I liked the movie, it made me feel warm and fuzzy. Don't ask why, because I can't explain it.
 

I don't know how a movie could be so totally cool and so miserably awful at the same time. I enjoyed it immensely, but it's a very guilty pleasure- like admitting that I like R.A. Salvatore novels and listening to bad Russian pop groups.

As I told one person who said they hadn't seen Chronicles of Riddick yet, "Have you seen the David Lynch version of Dune? Have you seen The Fifth Element? Stargate? Star Wars? A movie with Vin Diesel in it? If you can answer yes to all of the above, you've seen The Chronicles of Riddick."

At the end, I just wanted to shout "He is the Kwisatz Haderach!", as the finale was the most blatant rip-off of Dune I'd ever seen.

But I still enjoyed it, though I shudder to admit it... and I bought the soundtrack this morning, since it'll be a perfect soundtrack for my new Star Wars campaign I'm starting next weekend (which I thought called for something a bit darker than the Star Wars soundtracks, as it's a survival-based campaign set on an ancient darkside stronghold world in the grips of the Great Hyperspace War)...

I give it 3 out of 5. Fantastic trash, like the Matrix movies or Evangelion, but not great.
 

When it comes to the physics and science anything goes, in my opinion. It's like those crazy people who keeps shouting that the Eagle never landed on the moon, and go on citing a number of "scientific inconsitencies". Then you go read Nasa'a explanations to why the stars can't be seen or why the shadows move in mysterious ways - and you realise: I don't know all I need to know about space science to make a ruling on this. So the point is: If sciense is confusing enough - why can't fiction be.

Still, I haven't seen this particular flick.
 

Saw two movies today: Riddick and Garfield. The cat was marginally more entertaining. Pitch Black was by far and away the superior Riddick movie. This review from the Los Angeles Times sums up the Riddick nicely enough for me:

Lo! The warrior gathered his might and his muscles to journey into the heart of darkness, whereupon he discovered a race of men, Necromongers, who favor cruelty, form-fitting leather and hairstyles the Old Ones called mullets. The warrior had traveled into the darkness before, into that darkness known as Pitch Black, where he had slain many and befriended a child, Jack, who should have been called Jacqueline. Now grown and known as Kyra, this maiden languishes on a penitentiary planet, where she battles demons and evil, and waits for the return of the hero while wearing totally cute cargo pants.

Will her hero-warrior return? You bet - after all, there has to be a reason why Vin Diesel's name appears above the title of a Hollywood blowout. A modestly talented actor -- he voiced the robot in the wonderful animated feature The Iron Giant and bared a beating heart in films such as Boiler Room and The Fast and the Furious -- Diesel doesn't have the chops to carry anything heavier than a barbell. But he's a weirdly likable brute, a slab of humanity who's a provocative question mark of a man (admirably, he has refused to declare himself black, white or in between). The name of his company, One Race Productions, suggests he's something of an idealist. He may not be deep, this Diesel, but that may explain why he comes across as such a vividly modern hero.

Not, sad to say, a hero with taste. Not since John Travolta sprouted a head of dreadlocks and strapped on platform boots for Battlefield Earth has cinematic science fiction been such good-bad fun as in The Chronicles of Riddick. A candidate for Mystery Science Theater 3000-style raillery and communal home-video perusal, the film features Diesel in a reprise of the titular character he introduced to better, less risible effect in Pitch Black. Like that deep-space action flick, Riddick was directed by David Twohy, who generally squeezes B-movie atmosphere and shivers out of his material. (His writing credits include the nifty Warlock and The Fugitive; his directing credits are spottier, though the submarine chiller Below had its moments.) Judging by this new film, Twohy's talents are not served by larger budgets.

Weighted down with money, pretension and Diesel's tenuous importance -- and not enough story story story -- the follow-up to Pitch Black inverts nearly everything that made the first film an effective-enough shocker. Instead of mystery and shadow (the budget director's best friend) there are hilariously tacky outfits, sets that borrow liberally from David Lynch's Dune and action that borrows heavily from video games. There's Thandie Newton swanning around like a discount Lady Macbeth and Judi Dench slipping through scenes with a self-amused smile. (This dame knows what's going on.) There are new faces (Alexa Davalos as Kyra) and usual suspects (Colm Feore, Linus Roache, Keith David), and the less said about them the better. There are bad guys and good and, of course, our Diesel, a man for some seasons but, alas, not for all movies.
 

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