Classes ... Much Less Flexible than Advertised

[hong]

So Elves should play Rangers not Rogues?

There is nothing stopping an elf playing a rogue. Is this a trick question?

 

[Bagpuss]

What racial restrictions?

Why give elves proficiency with longbows and shortbows and then say they can't use them with ANY rogue abilities?

Sure they can play rogues but they lose a racial benefit of being an elf.

It doesn't stop them but it is a big discouragement,

Please come up with an in game reason a sling (bludgeoning), and crossbow (piercing) can sneak attack while a bow (piercing) can't.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

So Elves should play Rangers not Rogues? I thought we got rid of racial restrictions with 2nd Ed?

Elven shouldn't play Wizards, because otherwise their racial weapon profiency would be useless, since it can't be used with spells? (Which means the only class they could play is what - Rogue?)

 

[Steely Dan]

So Elves should play Rangers not Rogues? I thought we got rid of racial restrictions with 2nd Ed?

It says that elves make good rangers and rogues (and clerics), so we'll see.

 

[Bagpuss]

Elven shouldn't play Wizards, because otherwise their racial weapon profiency would be useless, since it can't be used with spells? (Which means the only class they could play is what - Rogue?)

Hardly a fair comparison.

I'm asking why a martial weapon can't be used with a martial class ability, and martial powers, that other martial weapons can be used with.

It's really not the same as trying to use a martial weapon with arcane powers and class abilities.

 

[hong]

Why give elves proficiency with longbows and shortbows and then say they can't use them with ANY rogue abilities?

Because they just happen not to synergise well. Life is tough.

Sure they can play rogues but they lose a racial benefit of being an elf.

It doesn't stop them but it is a big discouragement,

Races being better suited to some classes than others has been part of D&D for a long, long time. Just like how in 3E, you'll see lots more dwarf fighters and clerics than dwarf sorcerers.

Please come up with an in game reason a sling (bludgeoning), and crossbow (piercing) can sneak attack while a bow (piercing) can't.

You'll have to go to the Dragonsfoot grognards for that one, I'm afraid!

 

[hong]

Hardly a fair comparison.

I'm asking why a martial weapon can't be used with a martial class ability, and martial powers, that other martial weapons can be used with.

Let's not get carried away with labels that have no actual in-game significance, yes?

 

[MaelStorm]

Isn't it obvious that Eladrins (not Elves) will make good wizard?

 

[Bagpuss]

It says that elves make good rangers and rogues (and clerics), so we'll see.

Probably down to the +2 Dex and +2 Wis which aid most of their class skills and their powers.

 

[hong]

Probably down to the +2 Dex and +2 Wis which aid most of their class skills and their powers.

See? You're starting to solve the problems already!