Cleave and Power attack

[Tripgnosis]

When you power attack a cleave, does the extra damage get applied to the second target or just the initial target.

More generally, when something says that you add extra damage to a damage roll, does it get applied to ANY damage you deal under that circumstance, or just damage that is actually ROLLED....

Sorry if this is confusing, I can try to come up with an example if you can't figure out what I;m talking about

 

[MindWanderer]

Basically, yes, you add other modifiers whenever there's a die roll involved ([W] for weapon powers, XdY for other powers).

 

[77IM]

In general, static ongoing damage is not modified by anything.

I would extend this rationale to static instantaneous damage. If there's no NdX or [W] in the damage, it doesn't get modified.

As usual, abilities that specifically say they modify static damage would be the exception.

-- 77IM

 

[HenryBlatbugIII]

Just confirming the other answers:

Some powers add modifiers to attack rolls or
damage rolls. These modifiers apply to any roll of
the dice, but not to ongoing damage or other static,
nonvariable effects.

 

[Tripgnosis]

That pretty much clears it up, thanx. I kinda figured it worked like that.

 

[Leatherhead]

So would power attack would be better for a ranger than a fighter?

 

[Mirtek]

Just confirming the other answers:

So a 5[W] power does 5x weapon focus damage + 5x versataile damage + 5x weapon enhancement damage?

 

[thewok]

So a 5[W] power does 5x weapon focus damage + 5x versataile damage + 5x weapon enhancement damage?

That would make wielding a longsword with two hands more beneficial than first thought.

 

[Mirtek]

That would make wielding a longsword with two hands more beneficial than first thought.

This would make the greatsword completly superfluous. Yet the way this quote from the PHB is written that seems to be it's intend.

The powers don't really talk about this, they only mention X[W] + Str. So we now that Str is seperate and is not multilplied with multiple [W]. Yet we don't know what exactly [W] means, if things like WF, versataile, enhancement are indeed considered part of the weapon damage and are applied multiple times, that makes me see all these X[W] powers in a completly new way.

 

[Torchlyte]

It doesn't say any roll of the die, it says any roll of the dice.