D&D 5E (2024) Collage of Dance Reveal

[Remathilis]

"There are two types of beings in the universe: those who dance, and those who do not."

Kevin Bacon and Jennifer Beals are on their way to your house as we speak.

 

[TwoSix]

I now want to make a Dance Bard, who pretends to be a wizard, named Magic Mike. (Feat: Polearm Master)

 

[Oofta]

I'm not sure why you want a collage of dancing instead of a college, but okay ...

 

[TwoSix]

I'm not sure why you want a collage of dancing instead of a college, but okay ...

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I was waiting for someone to make that joke, thank you.

 

[Undrave]

I had forgotten how large the gap between bard sublcass features were. Yet another victim of non-standardized subclass levels...

3-6-14 feels fairly normal. As @UngeheuerLich points out, magical secrets at 10 can act to support your subclass so seeing it as 3-6-10-14 is not so bad.

The Rogue gets 3-9-13-17
The Warlock 1-6-10-14
The Fighter is 3-7-10-15-18
The Wizard 2-6-10-14
Same for the Druid, 2-6-10-14
The Sorcerer is 1-6-14-18, now THAT is bad.

Dazzling Footwork adds Dance Virtuoso (ribbon: advantage on Performance checks that involve dance)

Maybe they can finally give us a use for Performance.

 

[Merlecory]

The Rogue gets 3-9-13-17
The Warlock 1-6-10-14
The Fighter is 3-7-10-15-18
The Wizard 2-6-10-14
Same for the Druid, 2-6-10-14
The Sorcerer is 1-6-14-18, now THAT is bad.

Rogue has a 6 level gap, right were most play occurs, I think they have it worst.

Bard has the same subclass progression as the sorcerer, barring the 18th label feature. I'm not sure that I would say bard is fine, but sorcerer has it bad.

 

[Undrave]

Rogue has a 6 level gap, right were most play occurs, I think they have it worst.

Yeah, it's really weird. I guess they had too much base class features to stick in there? Looking at it, at 6th they get an extra Expertise and I feel like that they could have gotten another subclass feature right there.

Bard has the same subclass progression as the sorcerer, barring the 18th label feature. I'm not sure that I would say bard is fine, but sorcerer has it bad.

Actually they have the same progression as Barbarians (3-6-10-14) if you consider the 10th level magical secret as a replacement for a subclass feature. They get more Magical Secrets at 14 and 18 which are also subclass levels in other class... Weirdly, the Bard gets expertise and a bump to inspiration right on 6th level, but don't have a feature at 7th or 11th level...

 

[Merlecory]

Actually they have the same progression as Barbarians (3-6-10-14) if you consider the 10th level magical secret as a replacement for a subclass feature. They get more Magical Secrets at 14 and 18 which are also subclass levels in other class... Weirdly, the Bard gets expertise and a bump to inspiration right on 6th level, but don't have a feature at 7th or 11th level...

I guess I wouldn't consider magical secrets as a subclass feature, though it's free form enough I do sort of understand why you might. (Do warlocks get a bunch of subclass levels in this framework?)

Regarding the 7th and 11th levels, I thought that one of the goals in the UA was removing "dead" levels. Am I misremembering? Not that we know what bard will look like.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Here are my notes for anyone who can't/doesnt want to watch the video

• No real talk about the base class mechanics (what is spell casting going to look like?). I assume WotC want that for themselves.

• Dance bard discusions starts at about the 8 minute mark.

• 3rd lvel still gets unarmourd defence and psuedo-martial arts (better than barbarian unarmored defence)
• 6th level has a reaction movement ability and a way to boost initiatives via spending inspiration
• 14th level now has super evaion (You and an ally within 5ft get evasion)

I had forgotten how large the gap between bard sublcass features were. Yet another victim of non-standardized subclass levels...

Thank you. I do my best to avoid giving "influencers" views.

 

[Undrave]

I guess I wouldn't consider magical secrets as a subclass feature, though it's free form enough I do sort of understand why you might. (Do warlocks get a bunch of subclass levels in this framework?)

Regarding the 7th and 11th levels, I thought that one of the goals in the UA was removing "dead" levels. Am I misremembering? Not that we know what bard will look like.

I forgot to mention the Warlock get their Pact Boon at 3rd level and that's a sort of subclass too so their progression becomes 1-3-6-10-14.

I guess Magical Secrets is like a Warlock's Pact Boon and their Invocation in that it's highly customizable. I think Magical Secrets can be seen as a tool of customization even if it's not a proper subclass feature.

And yeah, we don't know the level progression of the new bard. Hopefully they filled those two gaps.