College Football

[Crothian]

Ya, the whole using the BCS as a way to measure which teams to send to the BCS bowl is BS IMO. There have been ways to decide who won the tie breakers for years and they worked well.

 

[drothgery]

Ya, the whole using the BCS as a way to measure which teams to send to the BCS bowl is BS IMO. There have been ways to decide who won the tie breakers for years and they worked well.

It's a side effect of the "Syracuse rule" in the BCS formula (which has come closer to being applied to the ACC than the Big East, historically). Since a string of low-ranked champions will cost a confrence a free pass to the BCS for its champion, sending a much lower-ranked team that wins a traditional tiebreaker to the BCS title game is probably bad for the conference.

The ACC and Big East haven't been a position where they felt secure enough to let a much lower-ranked team be their representative, and so use the BCS rankings as a relatively high tiebreaker. The SEC uses BCS rankings as a last-case tiebreaker, mostly because it's less silly than anything else and they came close to a scenario where three teams were tied after four or five tiebreakers. I don't know if the Big 12 uses BCS rankings for anything. The Big 10 and Pac 10, college football's traditionalists, don't use the BCS rankings for tiebreakers in any case. I'd have to think they're better than the Big 10's method after head-to-head, though; when the co-champs didn't play each other, the one whose last visit to the Rose Bowl was longer ago gets to go.

 

[Crothian]

One day I'll be able to tell the grand kids about the dark times that were the BCS before the Playoffs came to be.......

 

[Dimwhit]

I'm just glad the BCS is taking another hit this year. Texas is already getting hosed. I kinda wished Boise could have finished Top 6 along with Utah just so they'd have to let both in. That would have royally ticked off a number of people/schools. I hope next year the same thing happens. Anything to devalue the BCS. As it is, there are 3 non-BCS teams in the Top 10. That should make them think twice. Let's hope it happens again next year.

 

[Crothian]

Boise getting in would have been great, but I imagine somehow they'd get set up to play each other. Just like now the talk is the of the weakest team (Big East Champ) playing Utah. So, even when the teams get in they are noty given a chance to shine against the true elite. Everyone speculates they would lose dramtically to such a team, but unless you give them the chance we will never know.

But seeing Boise play Lousiville will make that the best non BCS bowl. Misght be like that East Carolina MArshall classic from a few years back.

 

[drothgery]

Boise getting in would have been great,

Boise getting in would be great for the goal of dismantling the BCS, but would produce bad football games. Boise has had too many near misses with really bad teams; with a major confrence schedule, or even a Big East/MWC schedule, Boise St would have 3 or 4 losses and be out of the top 25.

but I imagine somehow they'd get set up to play each other.

Actually, I think Utah would end up in the Rose Bowl under that scenario (Cal is eliminated by the minor-confrence rule, so they can't get a Pac-10 team, and Utah fans are more likely to go to LA than Miami or VA Tech fans). Boise gets the Fiesta against Pitt/Syracuse.

Just like now the talk is the of the weakest team (Big East Champ) playing Utah. So, even when the teams get in they are noty given a chance to shine against the true elite. Everyone speculates they would lose dramtically to such a team, but unless you give them the chance we will never know.

There's also been some speculation that Utah might end up in the Sugar against Auburn. The Tigers want to make the best case possible for a split title, and can't play Cal or Texas to do so; Utah's probably the best they can get.

But seeing Boise play Lousiville will make that the best non BCS bowl.

I doubt it. As per above, L'ville should win handily -- L'ville's only loss was a shootout to Miami. Boise's victories include shootout win over San Jose State.

 

[Crothian]

Ya, the Cardionals have looked better, but tthe one nuice thing about the Bowl gamers is teams have a month to prepare and get ready for one game. And they come to play.

 

[Dimwhit]

I think it's funny how people bag on Boise because they had a close game against San Jose and Tulsa (who is actually decent and just beat UTEP). Do we all forget that a 2-7 Kansas came a play away from beating Texas? Or that Oklahoma has had close games against bad opponents?

And I'm not big on the quality loss issue. Losing a close game to a great team doesn't necessarily mean much.

Louisville may destroy Boise. Or maybe Boise will do what they've done all year and find a way to win.

 

[Crothian]

its the nature of college foiotball, since no one actually plays each other people have to come up with excuses as to why the undefeated and one lose teams are not worthy

 

[Dimwhit]

Well said, Crothian!